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🌺plumeria🌺 said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

You are far too involved in your friends marriage, it's getting weird now.

Says the one who gets in e'ryone's business and snitches thrice as much as I do, with about equal levels of involvement from Delora's side over you two's mutual history most likely. 🤷

Yeah but the people i do that to aren't my friends. You're actively involving yourself in his marriage and snitching on Delora because you do not like or trust her. This is about how you feel she doesn't deserve him. 

So you don't tell your friends what others have been saying about them? 

 I don't meddle in their relationships, unless they ask my opinion. I certainly don't then try to defend those friends if I'm unsure they've physically assaulted their partner. 

Delora and BR are shit to each other but you seem to think she's the ultimate bad.

I've been saying for days that regardless of which one's right, or if both of them are simultaneously, that they need to split up. 

If there was no meddling they might not have even split up as they have now in the first place. 

 So this is the desired outcome, yes?

Are you asking me if they ought to be together or not? 

 I'm asking if this is the desired outcome from you meddling, si?

I mean like, which parts? It's not just one lump sum. 

 Is their separation the outcome you were hoping for when you were meddling in their marriage? 

So you're asking me if the two of them separating is a good thing in my eyes, rather than asking me if every single thing that happened was desired? 

Just making sure, this seems booby-trapped. 

 Booby traps and word twisting are her specialty

 That wasn't what I asked.

TC, when you started meddling in BRs and Deloras marriage what were you trying to achieve? 

Lenalee said: 

TC, when you started meddling in BRs and Deloras marriage what were you trying to achieve? 

In the beginning it was just to get both sides of the story when I'd been less jaded over Delora, feeling like there must be more to it than her version or at least for the sake of getting a corroboration. When more invested overtime from meeting the dude IRL and hearing more and more of the narratives (both of them) it was my mentioning that I wouldn't stand for it in his shoes when he otherwise felt very isolated and alone from what was going on, blaming himself pretty much constantly for everything she did down the line once his outrage would settle.

Past a point I mostly operated as an open ear and shoulder to cry on when he really needed to communicate his mess when he'd felt there was no one else to turn to, trying to be a friend while otherwise letting him know the very things Delora would make public knowledge for this entire website to see as is, rather than any sorts of PMs or whatever. He felt like Delora didn't ever understand what he was saying so he felt unheard, usually just resigning himself to her version while beating himself up, he felt like she didn't care about him when she'd log onto this website and continue to spout all their dirty laundry for strangers she openly tells us she hates, and she makes constant threats towards him and herself if he doesn't do exactly as she says which pretty much has him at gunpoint with a zealous, occasionally delusional, suicidal person that isn't entirely afraid to make a public scene or escalate things too far. 

Considering her history of lies to people on this website and the idea that "Words aren't the same as actions" to justify her time here, and by her endgame considering her masquerading as BR to push her needs further, I've become very jaded in her direction and it has become more difficult for me to show her sympathy when I see her as prone to lies, exaggeration, and attention whoring in other areas of her history, but even with her RPing as* BR without me knowing I was very forward about what was wrong with it instead of pushing that he was some sort of good guy for behaving that way (while shocked). 

I'd advise that they separate which was something he thought was impossible over a variety of reasons, something she reinforced through a variety of means, such as hacking his facebook to convince his conservative family he's a crossdresser, reporting that people around them are attempting to sexually assault her (not just BR, but his dad, her mom, tons of people apparently), telling him that no other woman would ever love him to break his spirit away from the idea of questioning other relationships, saying her actions are his fault over a wide range of things that span outside of reason at points... it's a messy list even when just going by what's been made public. I spent time mostly showing him that it's not the end of the world if they separate over these things so that he'd feel less trapped, and by the end of it he's walked out the door (even if he's now trying to storm right back through it apparently), and prior to that he sought some breathing room with the fam to try to sort things out without her constant narrative pushing. 

It looked like a case of gaslighting from someone who didn't even know they were doing it, and even now I can never really be so sure, just more sure of some things over how they're still separated. She'd outright sign onto the forum and direct flak at him, then drag him to the website during such times so that that's all he'd see. She'd even bury her posts that were the incriminating evidence so that he'd go with her version of the stories, which was a strategy that consistently worked on him from him being so lazy about reading other people's content and over how much he wanted to believe the world was bad rather than her directing any of it towards them at all. 

It's clear TC wanted BR to choke Delora and should be held responsible for BR's actions....

You know Delora... You should just live your life without BR. If even half of what either of you said is true, you're both toxic. If it's all lies... you're still toxic.

Lenalee said:

I don't meddle in their relationships, unless they ask my opinion.

Turncoat said: 

In the beginning it was just to get both sides of the story when I'd been less jaded over Delora, feeling like there must be more to it than her version or at least for the sake of getting a corroboration. When more invested overtime from meeting the dude IRL and hearing more and more of the narratives (both of them) it was my mentioning that I wouldn't stand for it in his shoes when he otherwise felt very isolated and alone from what was going on, blaming himself pretty much constantly for everything she did down the line once his outrage would settle.

Past a point I mostly operated as an open ear and shoulder to cry on when he really needed to communicate his mess when he'd felt there was no one else to turn to, trying to be a friend while otherwise letting him know the very things Delora would make public knowledge for this entire website to see as is, rather than any sorts of PMs or whatever. He felt like Delora didn't ever understand what he was saying so he felt unheard, usually just resigning himself to her version while beating himself up, he felt like she didn't care about him when she'd log onto this website and continue to spout all their dirty laundry for strangers she openly tells us she hates, and she makes constant threats towards him and herself if he doesn't do exactly as she says which pretty much has him at gunpoint with a zealous, occasionally delusional, suicidal person that isn't entirely afraid to make a public scene or escalate things too far. 

Considering her history of lies to people on this website and the idea that "Words aren't the same as actions" to justify her time here, and by her endgame considering her masquerading as BR to push her needs further, I've become very jaded in her direction and it has become more difficult for me to show her sympathy when I see her as prone to lies, exaggeration, and attention whoring in other areas of her history, but even with her RPing and BR without me knowing I was very forward about what was wrong with it instead of pushing that he was some sort of good guy for behaving that way (while shocked). 

I'd advise that they separate which was something he thought was impossible over a variety of reasons, something she reinforced through a variety of means, such as hacking his facebook to convince his conservative family he's a crossdresser, reporting that people around them are attempting to sexually assault her (not just BR, but his dad, her mom, tons of people apparently), telling him that no other woman would ever love him to break his spirit away from the idea of questioning other relationships, saying her actions are his fault over a wide range of things that span outside of reason at points... it's a messy list even when just going by what's been made public. I spent time mostly showing him that it's not the end of the world if they separate over these things so that he'd feel less trapped, and by the end of it he's walked out the door (even if he's now trying to storm right back through it apparently), and prior to that he sought some breathing room with the fam to try to sort things out without her constant narrative pushing. 

It looked like a case of gaslighting from someone who didn't even know they were doing it, and even now I can never really be so sure, just more sure of some things over how they're still separated. She'd outright sign onto the forum and direct flak at him, then drag him to the website during such times so that that's all he'd see. She'd even bury her posts that were the incriminating evidence so that he'd go with her version of the stories, which was a strategy that consistently worked on him from him being so lazy about reading other people's content and over how much he wanted to believe the world was bad rather than her directing any of it towards them at all. 

This actually sounds pretty reasonable.

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

TC, when you started meddling in BRs and Deloras marriage what were you trying to achieve? 

In the beginning it was just to get both sides of the story when I'd been less jaded over Delora, feeling like there must be more to it than her version or at least for the sake of getting a corroboration. When more invested overtime from meeting the dude IRL and hearing more and more of the narratives (both of them) it was my mentioning that I wouldn't stand for it in his shoes when he otherwise felt very isolated and alone from what was going on, blaming himself pretty much constantly for everything she did down the line once his outrage would settle.

Past a point I mostly operated as an open ear and shoulder to cry on when he really needed to communicate his mess when he'd felt there was no one else to turn to, trying to be a friend while otherwise letting him know the very things Delora would make public knowledge for this entire website to see as is, rather than any sorts of PMs or whatever. He felt like Delora didn't ever understand what he was saying so he felt unheard, usually just resigning himself to her version while beating himself up, he felt like she didn't care about him when she'd log onto this website and continue to spout all their dirty laundry for strangers she openly tells us she hates, and she makes constant threats towards him and herself if he doesn't do exactly as she says which pretty much has him at gunpoint with a zealous, occasionally delusional, suicidal person that isn't entirely afraid to make a public scene or escalate things too far. 

Considering her history of lies to people on this website and the idea that "Words aren't the same as actions" to justify her time here, and by her endgame considering her masquerading as BR to push her needs further, I've become very jaded in her direction and it has become more difficult for me to show her sympathy when I see her as prone to lies, exaggeration, and attention whoring in other areas of her history, but even with her RPing and BR without me knowing I was very forward about what was wrong with it instead of pushing that he was some sort of good guy for behaving that way (while shocked). 

I'd advise that they separate which was something he thought was impossible over a variety of reasons, something she reinforced through a variety of means, such as hacking his facebook to convince his conservative family he's a crossdresser, reporting that people around them are attempting to sexually assault her (not just BR, but his dad, her mom, tons of people apparently), telling him that no other woman would ever love him to break his spirit away from the idea of questioning other relationships, saying her actions are his fault over a wide range of things that span outside of reason at points... it's a messy list even when just going by what's been made public. I spent time mostly showing him that it's not the end of the world if they separate over these things so that he'd feel less trapped, and by the end of it he's walked out the door (even if he's now trying to storm right back through it apparently), and prior to that he sought some breathing room with the fam to try to sort things out without her constant narrative pushing. 

It looked like a case of gaslighting from someone who didn't even know they were doing it, and even now I can never really be so sure, just more sure of some things over how they're still separated. She'd outright sign onto the forum and direct flak at him, then drag him to the website during such times so that that's all he'd see. She'd even bury her posts that were the incriminating evidence so that he'd go with her version of the stories, which was a strategy that consistently worked on him from him being so lazy about reading other people's content and over how much he wanted to believe the world was bad rather than her directing any of it towards them at all. 

 All that to just to avoid saying "not initially but later on this was a desired outcome." 

I wanted to be thorough. 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

TC, when you started meddling in BRs and Deloras marriage what were you trying to achieve? 

In the beginning it was just to get both sides of the story when I'd been less jaded over Delora, feeling like there must be more to it than her version or at least for the sake of getting a corroboration. When more invested overtime from meeting the dude IRL and hearing more and more of the narratives (both of them) it was my mentioning that I wouldn't stand for it in his shoes when he otherwise felt very isolated and alone from what was going on, blaming himself pretty much constantly for everything she did down the line once his outrage would settle.

Past a point I mostly operated as an open ear and shoulder to cry on when he really needed to communicate his mess when he'd felt there was no one else to turn to, trying to be a friend while otherwise letting him know the very things Delora would make public knowledge for this entire website to see as is, rather than any sorts of PMs or whatever. He felt like Delora didn't ever understand what he was saying so he felt unheard, usually just resigning himself to her version while beating himself up, he felt like she didn't care about him when she'd log onto this website and continue to spout all their dirty laundry for strangers she openly tells us she hates, and she makes constant threats towards him and herself if he doesn't do exactly as she says which pretty much has him at gunpoint with a zealous, occasionally delusional, suicidal person that isn't entirely afraid to make a public scene or escalate things too far. 

Considering her history of lies to people on this website and the idea that "Words aren't the same as actions" to justify her time here, and by her endgame considering her masquerading as BR to push her needs further, I've become very jaded in her direction and it has become more difficult for me to show her sympathy when I see her as prone to lies, exaggeration, and attention whoring in other areas of her history, but even with her RPing and BR without me knowing I was very forward about what was wrong with it instead of pushing that he was some sort of good guy for behaving that way (while shocked). 

I'd advise that they separate which was something he thought was impossible over a variety of reasons, something she reinforced through a variety of means, such as hacking his facebook to convince his conservative family he's a crossdresser, reporting that people around them are attempting to sexually assault her (not just BR, but his dad, her mom, tons of people apparently), telling him that no other woman would ever love him to break his spirit away from the idea of questioning other relationships, saying her actions are his fault over a wide range of things that span outside of reason at points... it's a messy list even when just going by what's been made public. I spent time mostly showing him that it's not the end of the world if they separate over these things so that he'd feel less trapped, and by the end of it he's walked out the door (even if he's now trying to storm right back through it apparently), and prior to that he sought some breathing room with the fam to try to sort things out without her constant narrative pushing. 

It looked like a case of gaslighting from someone who didn't even know they were doing it, and even now I can never really be so sure, just more sure of some things over how they're still separated. She'd outright sign onto the forum and direct flak at him, then drag him to the website during such times so that that's all he'd see. She'd even bury her posts that were the incriminating evidence so that he'd go with her version of the stories, which was a strategy that consistently worked on him from him being so lazy about reading other people's content and over how much he wanted to believe the world was bad rather than her directing any of it towards them at all. 

 Delora is a bitch that deserves everything she gets in life.

It's hard to believe you're ever forward about anything though.

Cavalier said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

TC, when you started meddling in BRs and Deloras marriage what were you trying to achieve? 

In the beginning it was just to get both sides of the story when I'd been less jaded over Delora, feeling like there must be more to it than her version or at least for the sake of getting a corroboration. When more invested overtime from meeting the dude IRL and hearing more and more of the narratives (both of them) it was my mentioning that I wouldn't stand for it in his shoes when he otherwise felt very isolated and alone from what was going on, blaming himself pretty much constantly for everything she did down the line once his outrage would settle.

Past a point I mostly operated as an open ear and shoulder to cry on when he really needed to communicate his mess when he'd felt there was no one else to turn to, trying to be a friend while otherwise letting him know the very things Delora would make public knowledge for this entire website to see as is, rather than any sorts of PMs or whatever. He felt like Delora didn't ever understand what he was saying so he felt unheard, usually just resigning himself to her version while beating himself up, he felt like she didn't care about him when she'd log onto this website and continue to spout all their dirty laundry for strangers she openly tells us she hates, and she makes constant threats towards him and herself if he doesn't do exactly as she says which pretty much has him at gunpoint with a zealous, occasionally delusional, suicidal person that isn't entirely afraid to make a public scene or escalate things too far. 

Considering her history of lies to people on this website and the idea that "Words aren't the same as actions" to justify her time here, and by her endgame considering her masquerading as BR to push her needs further, I've become very jaded in her direction and it has become more difficult for me to show her sympathy when I see her as prone to lies, exaggeration, and attention whoring in other areas of her history, but even with her RPing and BR without me knowing I was very forward about what was wrong with it instead of pushing that he was some sort of good guy for behaving that way (while shocked). 

I'd advise that they separate which was something he thought was impossible over a variety of reasons, something she reinforced through a variety of means, such as hacking his facebook to convince his conservative family he's a crossdresser, reporting that people around them are attempting to sexually assault her (not just BR, but his dad, her mom, tons of people apparently), telling him that no other woman would ever love him to break his spirit away from the idea of questioning other relationships, saying her actions are his fault over a wide range of things that span outside of reason at points... it's a messy list even when just going by what's been made public. I spent time mostly showing him that it's not the end of the world if they separate over these things so that he'd feel less trapped, and by the end of it he's walked out the door (even if he's now trying to storm right back through it apparently), and prior to that he sought some breathing room with the fam to try to sort things out without her constant narrative pushing. 

It looked like a case of gaslighting from someone who didn't even know they were doing it, and even now I can never really be so sure, just more sure of some things over how they're still separated. She'd outright sign onto the forum and direct flak at him, then drag him to the website during such times so that that's all he'd see. She'd even bury her posts that were the incriminating evidence so that he'd go with her version of the stories, which was a strategy that consistently worked on him from him being so lazy about reading other people's content and over how much he wanted to believe the world was bad rather than her directing any of it towards them at all. 

 Delora is a bitch that deserves everything she gets in life.

It's hard to believe you're ever forward about anything though.

 You wanted both sides but you never even spoke to me

I never said that about my mom, by tons of people you mean my cousin who molested me as a child and his dad hi was just creepy. I wouldn't call two people one even then. Br himself said that his dad did do these things, are you calling br a liar?