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on 12/2/2021

Posts: 910

I don't mean to cause any trouble to either, I don't understand the situation, and maybe I'm just a dumbass.

It seems petty, the toxic insulting against one another. Making cruel transphobic jokes at Cav's Friend but also Cav bringing up potential sexual abuse Lena experienced as a child, and telling her to kill herself.

If Lena wants to change but for whatever reason has her biases, trying to break her like that isn't how you get her to stop being transphobic. Maybe she doesn't actually care, and shit in the past proves that. I have no clue.

All I see is toxicity on both sides, and I'm not claiming to be some voice of reason, or that I am an expert in psychology or anything. Maybe Cav comes off as condescending and looks as if they try to have the moral high ground. If so, that's not how it should be. The goal is to change someone for the better, not to just be "right".

Idk, maybe I'm dumb and don't get it. If so, feel free to shit on me. I just wanted to speak my mind.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

last edit on 12/2/2021 5:45:11 AM

by Lenalee

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 2835

I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.

Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.

by Chapo

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 2482

Transphobia is normal and acceptable.

by Cavalier

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 1687

Lenalee said:
I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.

Some shitty stuff is an understatement when you're literally wishing for her suicide. If thats not transphobic I dont know what is. Or what caused you to lash out like that.

I'm very clear to her when I expressed how you deserve to die. I'd hardly call that a clean version.

I feel guilty about dragging her into all of this.

by Turncoat

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 34402

Cavalier said:
Lenalee said:
I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.
Some shitty stuff is an understatement when you're literally wishing for her suicide.

That statement's so memetic it doesn't even mean anything anymore.

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by Lenalee

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 2835

Cavalier said:
Lenalee said:
I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.
Some shitty stuff is an understatement when you're literally wishing for her suicide. If thats not transphobic I dont know what is. Or what caused you to lash out like that.
I'm very clear to her when I expressed how you deserve to die. I'd hardly call that a clean version.
I feel guilty about dragging her into all of this.

Pretty sure you claimed she wished suicide on me so all i did was hit back in the same spot and say she was going to 42% 🤷🏾‍♀️it's less wishing and more posting a statistic

by Cavalier

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 1687

Lenalee said:
Cavalier said:
Lenalee said:
I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.
Some shitty stuff is an understatement when you're literally wishing for her suicide. If thats not transphobic I dont know what is. Or what caused you to lash out like that.
I'm very clear to her when I expressed how you deserve to die. I'd hardly call that a clean version.
I feel guilty about dragging her into all of this.
Pretty sure you claimed she wished suicide on me so all i did was hit back in the same spot and say she was going to 42% 🤷🏾‍♀️it's less wishing and more posting a statistic

And you think that's acceptable?

by natasha87

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 3965

Cavalier said:
Lenalee said:
I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.
Some shitty stuff is an understatement when you're literally wishing for her suicide. If thats not transphobic I dont know what is. Or what caused you to lash out like that.
I'm very clear to her when I expressed how you deserve to die. I'd hardly call that a clean version.
I feel guilty about dragging her into all of this.

why did u drag her into it

by Good

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 2898

who hasn't been told to kys themselves these days

Cheery bye!

by Lenalee

on 12/2/2021

Posts: 2835

Cavalier said:
Lenalee said:
Cavalier said:
Lenalee said:
I totally said some shitty stuff about Cavs trans friend and I'd feel a little bad because knowing Cav he probably have her the clean version where he's a victim and he's being "bullied". I leaned in right hard when I didn't have to, and I'm sure she wishing i suicide might have just been cav embellishing.
Yeah yeah, I'm not going to apologize right now because I'm not being sincere about it, it would only be because oops, someone called me out on it.
Some shitty stuff is an understatement when you're literally wishing for her suicide. If thats not transphobic I dont know what is. Or what caused you to lash out like that.
I'm very clear to her when I expressed how you deserve to die. I'd hardly call that a clean version.
I feel guilty about dragging her into all of this.
Pretty sure you claimed she wished suicide on me so all i did was hit back in the same spot and say she was going to 42% 🤷🏾‍♀️it's less wishing and more posting a statistic
And you think that's acceptable?

Yes.

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