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Buttered Toast said: 

Although...

Genesis 6:1–4 -- There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Yes, so it says that they bore male children though

it is upsetting that Jesus does not always clarify these gender specific matters, because then it is like, is then one of these instances where men means both men and women, or not ?

and then it would be super helpful if I knew Hebrew

but I could always look up the concordance

JesusistheKing said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

Although...

Genesis 6:1–4 -- There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 Yes, so it says that they bore male children though

 

 

 The important fact is that "sons of God" (angels) procreated with women.  And how do you suppose they could do that?

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/who-are-sons-of-god-genesis-6/

However, there are different kinds of angels, I suspect.  After all, look at those weird ones in Revelations.  Most often they are considered fairly human-like, I thought.  (According to the Bible, that is.)

Buttered Toast said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

Although...

Genesis 6:1–4 -- There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 Yes, so it says that they bore male children though

 

 

 The important fact is that "sons of God" (angels) procreated with women.  And how do you suppose they could do that?

through probably deceptive fantasies because I am sure that their true forms are horrific lol, but during that time period it was supposed to be even more evil and sinful than this current day and age

we haven't quite degraded into pure evil and wickedness but it is probably coming soon, it is getting worse and worse

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

Like I said, Angels don't have a traditional gender, even further they're confused by human acts of lust, as we see in the story of Lot. 

They just call them 'He' to demonstrate their primary affect on reality, seeing as they weren't made from rib bones. Arguably Lilith could be called a 'He' by similar ideas, since she did not live a secondary life as was her choice and she'd been made from the dirt no differently from Adam. 

Turncoat, you are not the expert

I'm just basing this off of the texts you claim to be how reality functions. 🤷

Stop, you are contradicting the scriptures so obviously I won't agree with you, if God calls them "he" or "male", they are masculine and not feminine, or both

Check the texts again, angels aren't gendered but need a third person label so they went with 'he' to show how they are not secondary beings. When you consider how they're described it's closer to these artist renderings: 





They are very much not human, more alien than anything. 

JesusistheKing said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

They do.

yes, but what I want to know is if they are delusions played out by male fallen angels on men

 

 for example, Turncoat thinks that Satna can shape-shifting into having female parts, well what if this belief which I am sure that other people have too, is just that he and other male fallen angels are capable of playing out fantasies in mens' minds about this and make them think and physically feel like they are having physical sex with a female

 Turncoat, read this  ^

 

this is most likely the true explanation of what is happening during these experiences

I still don't see how this negates the potential to shapeshift his parts. If he can resemble other forms then why not that of a woman? 

JesusistheKing said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

 The important fact is that "sons of God" (angels) procreated with women.  And how do you suppose they could do that?

through probably deceptive fantasies because I am sure that their true forms are horrific lol, but during that time period it was supposed to be even more evil and sinful than this current day and age

 

we haven't quite degraded into pure evil and wickedness but it is probably coming soon, it is getting worse and worse

 

 

 I'm basically alluding to the biological means of procreation of sex creatures.  If these fallen angels ("sons of God") were screwing women and producing offspring, they probably had the dangly bits to do it.  (Do they always have them?  Can they change them?  That part is still up to question.)

Buttered Toast said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

 The important fact is that "sons of God" (angels) procreated with women.  And how do you suppose they could do that?

through probably deceptive fantasies because I am sure that their true forms are horrific lol, but during that time period it was supposed to be even more evil and sinful than this current day and age

 

we haven't quite degraded into pure evil and wickedness but it is probably coming soon, it is getting worse and worse

 I'm basically alluding to the biological means of procreation of sex creatures.  If these fallen angels ("sons of God") were screwing women and producing offspring, they probably had the dangly bits to do it.

We don't technically know that. 

If we're to take the olden tales of Succubus lore seriously, they'd steal a seed from a man in the shape of a woman and then implant it into a woman while in the shape of a man, ensuring pregnancy where it'd otherwise not make sense while allowing for aspects of the demon to proliferate through such spawn. 

succubus sounds scarrrry. like suck and you and busss