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nant in favor of the Old Covenant and the ways of life of the Old Testament (that doesn't even exist anymore)  ????????????

 

 

Romans 6:14-15

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

 

 

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A lot of people meanwhile don't understand your whole 'Divine Mother' thing either. 

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No, this is progress.  It's important to evolve from the law to the spirit of the law.

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No, this is progress.  It's important to evolve from the law to the spirit of the law.

That depends who you ask. 

I could easily see it argued that adapting the texts towards a modern age as Compromising with Satan. 

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No, this is progress.  It's important to evolve from the law to the spirit of the law.

That depends who you ask. 

I could easily see it argued that adapting the texts towards a modern age as Compromising with Satan. 

 What's so modern about that age now? :P   Do you mean "modern-er" than Old Testament?  "Adapting" the texts on one hand, "fulfilling prophecy" on the other, I guess.

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No, this is progress.  It's important to evolve from the law to the spirit of the law.

That depends who you ask. 

I could easily see it argued that adapting the texts towards a modern age as Compromising with Satan. 

 What's so modern about that age now? :P   Do you mean "modern-er" than Old Testament?

Exactly, they dared to change pieces of it and completely crop out other ones, changing the message of many portions entirely. 

It'd be like if someone took Lord of the Rings and wrote out the hobbits from figuring that it's insensitive towards midgets, alongside all his other construably racial content such as how he wrote the dwarves. 

A purist could easily argue that 'God doesn't make mistakes', and in that sense that the first texts should have been enough. In a world where we grow further and further away from God's original template, to the point of many barely even recognizing nature properly anymore, adapting the texts towards the laws and needs of man could be seen as compromising with Satan's grip upon the populace no differently than how some Christians spaz out about holidays like Halloween. 

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It would be worth mentioning how so many noncanonical texts were "cropped out", as well.

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I really can't pretend to argue any merits of the Bible or even within the context of it being "right" in some semantic repartee to play devil's advocate to a devil's advocate.  The Bible, to me, is more revealing of the people than it is about God (or Satan).  And the change from OT to NT reveals a spiritual awakening that contests stodgy, oppressive religious tradition.  Not even perfect, but definitely an evolution of a religion.  It's interesting how Christianity attempts to retain the OT, but I think it can serve more as a reminder of whence they came than as applicable to current affairs.  I think Christians might view it more how their Jewish predecessors "got it wrong" than God doing so.  (Sounds kinda racist, I guess.)

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It would be worth mentioning how so many noncanonical texts were "cropped out", as well.

From the Bible or Tolkien? 

I really can't pretend to argue any merits of the Bible or even within the context of it being "right" in some semantic repartee to play devil's advocate to a devil's advocate. 

I swear the expression's becoming more literal for me the more I argue in favor of him. 

The Bible, to me, is more revealing of the people than it is about God (or Satan). 

I mean same, but I can't expect other people to take it that way if they're the sort who are liable to debate it with me. 

Much like debating with an NPC in a d20 RPG, I need to perspective take or they won't listen to me. 

And the change from OT to NT reveals a spiritual awakening that contests stodgy, oppressive religious tradition. 

The rewrites were done as a convenience towards former societies to keep their subjects under control, it is far from the purity of their original works, a purity that shows a more childish God.

I think Christians might view it more how their Jewish predecessors "got it wrong" than God doing so.  (Sounds kinda racist, I guess.)

When the texts go out of their way to express stuff like that... yeah it's going to spread. 

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nant in favor of the Old Covenant and the ways of life of the Old Testament (that doesn't even exist anymore)  ????????????

 

 

Romans 6:14-15

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

 

 

 Most Christians understand we are under a new covenant. I made many posts about it... 

Covenant Theology.

Covenant theology: “Holds that the Mosaic Law can be divided into three groups of laws — those regulating the government of Israel (civil laws), ceremonial laws, and moral laws. The covenant of grace, then, does not set aside the covenant of works but rather fulfills it”. In this theology only the moral law continues in such a way that is not the means of salvation but a by-product of it.


New Covenant theology: Holds “that one cannot  divide the law up in that way, as though part of the Mosaic Law can be  abrogated while the rest remains in force. They say that the New Testament  clearly teaches that the Mosaic Law is superseded by Christ. It is, in other  words, no longer our direct and immediate source of guidance. In this view the Mosaic Law has been replaced by the law of Christ”. They make a distinction between the “spirit of the law” per say and the law. “The cancellation of the Mosaic Law does not mean that the eternal moral law is itself canceled. Rather that God gave us a different expression of his eternal moral law —  namely, the Law of Christ. The spirit of the law remains intact. So the  question: Where do we look to see the expression of God’s eternal moral law  today — do we look to Moses, or to Christ? We look to Christ”.

Dispensationalism: Hard to explain. Look it up if you want.

Passage about the new covenant >>>

Hebrews 8:6-13 But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in my covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall not teach, each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.” In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Romans 7:1-6 Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

Galatians 3:21-24 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Galatians 3:21-24 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Acts 17:30-31 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.

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The rewrites were done as a convenience towards former societies to keep their subjects under control.

I don't get this "control argument". What exactly are they trying to control? How does believing Jesus make me easier to control? If... anything I'm more likely to fight for God than for wordly policies. People go to drastic measures for their beliefs.
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