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Turncoat, I've been there


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I've been in that place when God and the holy scriptures seem absolutely ridiculous, a complete joke and an effort at population control of their people by the Jews and it just escalated somehow

 

I doubted it just as much as you currently seem to, but let's just say that my experience when I moved to hollywood changed my life forever, and I very much do believe in God now and that Jesus is God

 

I do not personally know how to help you see the light, only Jesus was able to find a way to finally get me to see the light that He is the truth, and that His instructions, if all of humanity followed them, would lead to a peaceful type of heaven on earth. Jesus has showed me more than enough evidence for this, and it is just simply impossible for me to doubt it anymore

 

but only Jesus can show you the evidence that convinces you, not I or Feathers or anyone else, because Jesus knows you, intimately, everything about you, and if you were genuinely open to the idea of God existing and wanting a relationship with you and if you wanted to be saved and to serve Him and be his child and his friend, if he did convince you that he is real, he would show you

 

but it seems to me that you much more meet the qualifications for a goat, and not a sheep, so I do not really see a point in trying to argue with you anymore, and God has basically commanded me not to (and through scriptures that you kept showing me)

 

only Jesus knows your heart though, so I am not going to attempt to judge you, but

 

 

 

 

Matthew 10:16

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

 

Wisdom says you do not really seem to be interested in ever learning the truth

 

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maybe I am wrong though, and I hope that Jesus works a miracle in your life and shows you the truth of His glory and power and sovereignity in the future

 

 

 

 

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last edit on 11/11/2021 11:22:51 PM
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1 votes RE: Turncoat, I've been there

Are you permitted to preach to TC?  You did say you consider him male, didn’t you?

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last edit on 11/11/2021 11:23:00 PM
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Are you permitted to preach to TC?  You did say you consider him make, didn’t you?

nope lol, and I made an exception, since I am saying goodbye to him and the forum

 

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It sounds like you have lingering things...

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, I've been there

I've been in that place when God and the holy scriptures seem absolutely ridiculous, a complete joke and an effort at population control of their people by the Jews and it just escalated somehow

 

I doubted it just as much as you currently seem to, but let's just say that my experience when I moved to hollywood changed my life forever, and I very much do believe in God now and that Jesus is God

 

I do not personally know how to help you see the light, only Jesus was able to find a way to finally get me to see the light that He is the truth, and that His instructions, if all of humanity followed them, would lead to a peaceful type of heaven on earth. Jesus has showed me more than enough evidence for this, and it is just simply impossible for me to doubt it anymore

 

but only Jesus can show you the evidence that convinces you, not I or Feathers or anyone else, because Jesus knows you, intimately, everything about you, and if you were genuinely open to the idea of God existing and wanting a relationship with you and if you wanted to be saved and to serve Him and be his child and his friend, if he did convince you that he is real, he would show you

 

but it seems to me that you much more meet the qualifications for a goat, and not a sheep, so I do not really see a point in trying to argue with you anymore, and God has basically commanded me not to (and through scriptures that you kept showing me)

 

only Jesus knows your heart though, so I am not going to attempt to judge you, but

 

 

 

 

Matthew 10:16

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

 

Wisdom says you do not really seem to be interested in ever learning the truth

 

🤷‍♀️🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊

 

 

maybe I am wrong though, and I hope that Jesus works a miracle in your life and shows you the truth of His glory and power and sovereignity in the future

 

 

 

 

✝️

 

 silence woman! 

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I've been in that place when God and the holy scriptures seem absolutely ridiculous, a complete joke and an effort at population control of their people by the Jews and it just escalated somehow

I doubted it just as much as you currently seem to, but let's just say that my experience when I moved to hollywood changed my life forever, and I very much do believe in God now and that Jesus is God

I do not personally know how to help you see the light

Perhaps it is my purpose not to see the light, or perhaps it is to rebuke it as if it were not good. 

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LightIsNotGood

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkIsNotEvil

I've always found more comfort in the dark, finding a consistent second wind of energy whenever the sun goes down while dragging my feet during the day with far less capacity to see. I've also as far back as I can remember have been far more prone to sympathizing with 'the bad guy' than any supposed heroes over a romanticized notion of how they're typically the true victims when you consider their context rather than the story's framing solely. 

For me the light burns while the dark comfortably blankets me and fills me with life. 

only Jesus was able to find a way to finally get me to see the light that He is the truth, and that His instructions, if all of humanity followed them, would lead to a peaceful type of heaven on earth.

I have problems with His model of peace, it's like when the 1950s popularized lobotomies. 

When made to compare the two settings I prefer how the world is now. 

but only Jesus can show you the evidence that convinces you, not I or Feathers or anyone else, because Jesus knows you, intimately, everything about you, and if you were genuinely open to the idea of God existing and wanting a relationship with you and if you wanted to be saved and to serve Him and be his child and his friend, if he did convince you that he is real, he would show you

Fae hasn't been trying to convert me though, where are you getting the idea that she is? You've been the one trying. 

The problem with your model is the presumption that people don't follow the same ideas simply because they don't want to, rather than figuring that there may be other underlying mechanisms at play here. Would you say when you were more flagrantly mistaken over the meaning of Bible passages like a week or so ago that your connection to God was only that faulty over how you didn't want to? 

You fall prey to numerous fallacies here: No True Scotsman, Appeal to Authority, Genetic, Black-or-White, Appeal to Nature, and more. If I'm to believe in something like the Bible then there must be proof, and once that's the case I'd likely be even more vigilant against God from said proof being a haunting, horrible truth to have to live with. 

It is also most unkind to say that someone who fails 'wasn't really trying'. 

but it seems to me that you much more meet the qualifications for a goat, and not a sheep, so I do not really see a point in trying to argue with you anymore, and God has basically commanded me not to (and through scriptures that you kept showing me)

What's wrong with goats? 

only Jesus knows your heart though, so I am not going to attempt to judge you, but

If he knows my heart and possesses any means of love and understanding, then he'd get my stance. 

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last edit on 11/12/2021 4:52:51 AM
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4 votes RE: Turncoat, I've been there

You never leave. No one will ever leave. 

 

Here we remain. 

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2 votes RE: Turncoat, I've been there
Lenalee said: 

You never leave. No one will ever leave. 

 

Here we remain. 

Yesss, you've learned.

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1 votes RE: Turncoat, I've been there
Lenalee said: 

You never leave. No one will ever leave. 

 

Here we remain. 

Yesss, you've learned.

 Just for that, I'm taking my leave and NEVER coming back. 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, I've been there

The real problem is getting new people to join. We are all getting older. How old is too old for sc lol? 

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