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I am becoming more and more submissive and passive and humble and selfless the more that Jesus is healing me from my sinful nature, now before Jesus started healing me YES I did desire praise and worship from his children WHICH WAS WRONG AND SINFUL, but I am no longer doing this because he has out my sinful nature into remission

I see your ego going into overdrive again personally, and your reports of Speed intake further my point. This shit isn't humble, passive, or submissive, but rather pushy, active, and insistent that it be heard. 

You may not be doing the sins you were once doing, but you've found new ones you drape in the illusion of righteousness. Again though, I mostly see Pride and Wrath in your passages. 

I am not perfected in love or completely sinless yet, the cleansing and purification and sanctification process is exactly that, a process that does not happen immediately

You're claiming to be a lot of passive traits while displaying the opposite though. You can't say you're humble and shit as a form of bragging for example, it goes against the very message. 

in comparison to how I used to behave, lol please don't even try to tell me there haven't been major shifts in my personality towards humbleness and displaying of the fruits of the Spirit

 

as they say in Celebrate Recovery, it is progress not perfection, as only Jesus Christ is perfect and can perfect us, and the cleansing from all unrighteousness and purification and sanctification process is a process

 

1 John 1:9

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

last edit on 10/19/2021 11:07:25 AM
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None of this confirms a divine mother, but rather are lines in relation to The Bible's pecking order: 

God > Jesus > Man > Son > Woman > Daughter > Foreigner > Sinner > Satan

Through the rib of Adam, Eve was made in his image as a supplement for Adam's loneliness and rape desires, and through the will of God Man was made as a supplement for God. 

it doesn't need to confirm that the divine Mother exists, I am just in submission that I agree with these scriptures and as Jesus was and is also a man

He was not subject to the laws of man, considering he was otherwise capable of Conjuration, Divination, and other strange otherworldly feats like water walking. As far as I am concerned he is not truly of Man, not truly of God, but rather of his own Jesusly tier. 

, and created all human beings in His image, I am also a woman, and only God needs to continue to confirm that I am the divine Mother to me.

Your only way of telling yourself it's not Satan is that 'it looks too pure to be', something The Bible literally warns people about. You otherwise have no way of telling between the two, and much of what you're being told is too convenient, fits too closely with your older ideals when you were still practicing spells. 

All I am proving to you is that I am not claiming to be God or the Creator, or desiring and thinking that I deserve praise and worship, so I am not blaspheming

can we come to agreement on this fact?

I mean, you are still blaspheming all over the place even if you claim to be less than God and Jesus now. 

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last edit on 10/19/2021 11:09:33 AM
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I am becoming more and more submissive and passive and humble and selfless the more that Jesus is healing me from my sinful nature, now before Jesus started healing me YES I did desire praise and worship from his children WHICH WAS WRONG AND SINFUL, but I am no longer doing this because he has out my sinful nature into remission

I see your ego going into overdrive again personally, and your reports of Speed intake further my point. This shit isn't humble, passive, or submissive, but rather pushy, active, and insistent that it be heard. 

You may not be doing the sins you were once doing, but you've found new ones you drape in the illusion of righteousness. Again though, I mostly see Pride and Wrath in your passages. 

I am not perfected in love or completely sinless yet, the cleansing and purification and sanctification process is exactly that, a process that does not happen immediately

You're claiming to be a lot of passive traits while displaying the opposite though. You can't say you're humble and shit as a form of bragging for example, it goes against the very message. 

in comparison to how I used to behave, lol please don't even try to tell me there haven't been major shifts in my personality towards humbleness and displaying of the fruits of the Spirit

I don't know how to say this nicely or politely, but I don't see that much of a difference between your Wiccan phase and Christian phase other than a change in literature, language, and targets. You've just replaced the promise of Magic with the promise of Hellfire when it comes to your 'enemies'. 

These debates aren't really that different from the ones we used to have. 

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last edit on 10/19/2021 11:12:35 AM
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0 votes RE: Turncoat, if God gave you a vision relating to you as His s/o

I'm going to keep bumping these until you admit to the truth of what I've been saying I believe about myself and my relationship with God and His children and all of his creation, or just continue to make you look foolish for refusing to admit the truth of what I've been telling you without twisting or perverting it  😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🤍🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊 

Sorry, not all of us are riding high on speed.

Patience is a virtue and all, please try to have some with my replies. 

I am trying, I want us to understand each other truthfully though, without either of us accusing each other of any claims about what we each believe, that one of us or the other do not truly believe and have not claimed to believe

 

as in, ever since I fully and completely started believing in Jesus as Lord and Savior without any doubting and submitted my life to Jesus which happened in late April 2021, I have never claimed to be God or the Creator, or desired and thought that I deserve praise and worship, which would be blaspheming if I did desire and think that I deserve praise and worship, but I do not desire and think that I deserve praise and worship even though I am the divine Mother, I am not God or the Creator, I am a creature

 

last edit on 10/19/2021 11:15:10 AM
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you seem to think that it is impossible that God would create a female partner for himself that does not desire praise or worship

 

I disagree, there is only one God and one Creator, he created all human beings in His image, but none of us including the divine Mother are the one true God or the Creator, we are all creatures

 

last edit on 10/19/2021 11:18:23 AM
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you seem to think that it is impossible that God would create a female partner for himself that does not desire praise or worship

But you do desire praise and worship, even if you claim to be working on that now. I've also spent the time reading with and bantering on the lore and backstory claims, ones that don't really match up with the reading material.

Lilith was made to be Adam's equal, meaning there's no direct relation to God (quite the opposite across her story really), and if we're to believe what The Bible discusses over God's ability to see and know all of space and time at once... why would He even need a partner? He was straight up confused by human loneliness, He probably doesn't get lonely, from being immune to the passage of time and from having seen all of it already. 

I disagree, there is only one God and one Creator, he created all human beings in His image, but none of us including the divine Mother are the one true God or the Creator, we are all creatures

What properties does The Divine Mother have that'd make her Divine? What superpowers? 

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, if God gave you a vision relating to you as His s/o

I'm going to keep bumping these until you admit to the truth of what I've been saying I believe about myself and my relationship with God and His children and all of his creation, or just continue to make you look foolish for refusing to admit the truth of what I've been telling you without twisting or perverting it  😊😊😊😊😊😊😊🤍🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊 

Sorry, not all of us are riding high on speed.

Patience is a virtue and all, please try to have some with my replies. 

I am trying, I want us to understand each other truthfully though, without either of us accusing each other of any claims about what we each believe, that one of us or the other do not truly believe and have not claimed to believe

I've been covering it from a Purist standpoint based on the claims and passages of the religion you're claiming to be a part of. I'd do the same over a lot of lore than offers the room for debate, like Disney movies or Harry Potter lore or Warcraft or even Twilight stuff. When I'm saying these things I am not reflecting my personal faith, but rather my opinion within the constraints of said faith for if it turned out to be the case. 

To be honest I'm fine with you claiming to be some sort of Divine-anything, but that explicitly isn't Christian. It's a lot of things, but if you're going to call yourself something then you might as well adhere to it's rules rather than making your own up as you go under their label.

We've even had this debate before when you were still Wiccan. 

as in, ever since I fully and completely started believing in Jesus as Lord and Savior without any doubting and submitted my life to Jesus which happened in late April 2021, I have never claimed to be God or the Creator

Again, you did once claim to be 'as big as', but you also claim to be working on that. 

I meanwhile still see it as you putting yourself above mortals as an ego trip, which really doesn't fit the faith you're trying to subscribe to. You're otherwise almost using Jesus like some sort of guard dog, figuring he'll send them to Hell as a way to make yourself feel better. 

I am a creature

A creature who is meant to be 'God's Wife', which inherently puts you above mortals yes? 

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last edit on 10/19/2021 12:12:26 PM
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