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So let me get this straight, because those who've sinned are sent to hell it's justified that they stay there because of how they continue to sin... but they also can't just stop sinning while they're down there, right? 

System's rigged. 

Turncoat said: 

So let me get this straight, because those who've sinned are sent to hell it's justified that they stay there because of how they continue to sin... but they also can't just stop sinning while they're down there, right? 

System's rigged. 

your opportunity to be receptive to God's desire for a relationship with you and with all of His children (and His ability to put your sinful nature into remission and heal you and restore you to a pure and sanctified lifestyle, not to say that any of us can be completely perfect while we are still in this lifetime but we should try our best to become as close to it as possible with Jesus's help and power to cleanse us from evil) is in this lifetime, and if you continue to deny it your entire lifetime (your lifetime being God's trial period for you), you will be condemned to eternal hell

it is perfectly fair and just

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

So let me get this straight, because those who've sinned are sent to hell it's justified that they stay there because of how they continue to sin... but they also can't just stop sinning while they're down there, right? 

System's rigged. 

your opportunity to be receptive to God's desire for a relationship with you and with all of His children (and His ability to put your sinful nature into remission and heal you and restore you to a pure and sanctified lifestyle, not to say that any of us can be completely perfect while we are still in this lifetime but we should try our best to become as close to it as possible with Jesus's help and power to cleanse us from evil) is in this lifetime, and if you continue to deny it your entire lifetime (your lifetime being God's trial period for you), you will be condemned to eternal hell

it is perfectly fair and just

You haven't reasonably answered how it is fair and just to spend an eternity somewhere for what you do in like 50 to 80 years of life. Once you're in Hell you're effectively stuck there in spite of His ability to 'put your sinful nature into remission', and it'd seem that you can fuck up badly enough in Heaven to be cast down but you cannot do enough good from Hell to be ascended. 

I don't see how it isn't disproportionate punishment, a human lifetime is not very long when you consider it next to eternity. It'd be like punishing a child for their entire lives for how they had a candy habit when they were six. Some may not even live long enough to learn their lessons before dying. 

The idea of saying these people 'chose' to go to Hell is like claiming every prisoner and mental patient caught wanted to be put away, when there could easily be pathological issues and environmental factors that gave them a disadvantage if not made that route impossible for them. Again when you consider the numbers, the time spent being punished is disproportionate compared to the time we're tested for Heaven, something you have a better chance of winning the lottery than achieving when you consider the 144,000 number. 

Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. - Revelations 14:1

System's rigged. If we as people could have any power over this situation or any other situation like it we would not stand for it. 

Turncoat said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

So let me get this straight, because those who've sinned are sent to hell it's justified that they stay there because of how they continue to sin... but they also can't just stop sinning while they're down there, right? 

System's rigged. 

your opportunity to be receptive to God's desire for a relationship with you and with all of His children (and His ability to put your sinful nature into remission and heal you and restore you to a pure and sanctified lifestyle, not to say that any of us can be completely perfect while we are still in this lifetime but we should try our best to become as close to it as possible with Jesus's help and power to cleanse us from evil) is in this lifetime, and if you continue to deny it your entire lifetime (your lifetime being God's trial period for you), you will be condemned to eternal hell

it is perfectly fair and just

You haven't reasonably answered how it is fair and just to spend an eternity somewhere for what you do in like 50 to 80 years of life. Once you're in Hell you're effectively stuck there in spite of His ability to 'put your sinful nature into remission', and it'd seem that you can fuck up badly enough in Heaven to be cast down but you cannot do enough good from Hell to be ascended. 

I don't see how it isn't disproportionate punishment, a human lifetime is not very long when you consider it next to eternity. It'd be like punishing a child for their entire lives for how they had a candy habit when they were six. Some may not even live long enough to learn their lessons before dying. 

The idea of saying these people 'chose' to go to Hell is like claiming every prisoner and mental patient caught wanted to be put away, when there could easily be pathological issues and environmental factors that gave them a disadvantage if not made that route impossible for them. Again when you consider the numbers, the time spent being punished is disproportionate compared to the time we're tested for Heaven, something you have a better chance of winning the lottery than achieving when you consider the 144,000 number. 

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Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. - Revelations 14:1

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System's rigged. If we as people could have any power over this situation or any other situation like it we would not stand for it. 

you take verses out of context, because you do not want a relationship with the fruits of the Spirit living inside of you and cleansing you and pouring out from you onto everyone else

Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

when you accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord, then you will be able to properly understand the scriptures

1 Corinthians 1:17-30

17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

So let me get this straight, because those who've sinned are sent to hell it's justified that they stay there because of how they continue to sin... but they also can't just stop sinning while they're down there, right? 

System's rigged. 

your opportunity to be receptive to God's desire for a relationship with you and with all of His children (and His ability to put your sinful nature into remission and heal you and restore you to a pure and sanctified lifestyle, not to say that any of us can be completely perfect while we are still in this lifetime but we should try our best to become as close to it as possible with Jesus's help and power to cleanse us from evil) is in this lifetime, and if you continue to deny it your entire lifetime (your lifetime being God's trial period for you), you will be condemned to eternal hell

it is perfectly fair and just

You haven't reasonably answered how it is fair and just to spend an eternity somewhere for what you do in like 50 to 80 years of life. Once you're in Hell you're effectively stuck there in spite of His ability to 'put your sinful nature into remission', and it'd seem that you can fuck up badly enough in Heaven to be cast down but you cannot do enough good from Hell to be ascended. 

I don't see how it isn't disproportionate punishment, a human lifetime is not very long when you consider it next to eternity. It'd be like punishing a child for their entire lives for how they had a candy habit when they were six. Some may not even live long enough to learn their lessons before dying. 

The idea of saying these people 'chose' to go to Hell is like claiming every prisoner and mental patient caught wanted to be put away, when there could easily be pathological issues and environmental factors that gave them a disadvantage if not made that route impossible for them. Again when you consider the numbers, the time spent being punished is disproportionate compared to the time we're tested for Heaven, something you have a better chance of winning the lottery than achieving when you consider the 144,000 number. 

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Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. - Revelations 14:1

---

System's rigged. If we as people could have any power over this situation or any other situation like it we would not stand for it. 

you take verses out of context, because you do not want a relationship with the fruits of the Spirit living inside of you and cleansing you and pouring out from you onto everyone else

Could you point out how it's out of context here, because I don't see how your following passages change anything. This lore isn't even my conclusion, but rather one other Christians believe. 

Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

when you accept Jesus as your Savior and Lord, then you will be able to properly understand the scriptures

1 Corinthians 1:17-30

17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Buttered Toast said: 

This doodle's pretty spot on for how I see the Heaven model. 




This one's a keeper.