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Turncoat, for there to be peace between us


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you do not believe there is any room for the divine Mother in the holy bible scriptures and that I am blaspheming, I believe quite the opposite because I never said that I was the Creator or God, or that I deserve praise and worship for being His partner, wife, and helper, in fact He designed humanity in His Image and if he created females for the men to he their helper, why would he also not have created a female to be His partner and helper as well, and I see many scriptures that actually support this of course because Jesus and the holy spirit showed me them, all the scriptural support that I have been shown so far combined with the vision God gave me on the plane from hollywood to where I live now is too much evidence for me to ever not believe again, I just simply can't go on living but keep doubting after what I have been shown by God that would be foolish and stupid of me and a waste of time, so we are just going to have to agree to disagree, and by the way many people thought Jesus was blasphwming for claiming to be who He is and he was hung on the cross under that very accusation, and I obviously believe Jesus is the divine Father in the same way that I am the divine Mother, but also the daughter of the divine Mother, I do not have a separate female holy spirit but we are all spiritual beings, the holy spirit is the only   spirit of life and if you have the Holy Spirit in you, yes the trinity is complicated but it can only be explained through being in relationship with Jesus and studying the scriptures, only the holy spirit and seeking wisdom from God can allow you to accurately understand the scriptures and this is just the truth. we are going to have to agree to disagree, and accept that I am convinced of what I am convinced of and simply can't be unconvinced anymore, and move forward from here with this understanding. you can stop debating me and trying to change my mind now because I will probably just ignore it if I'm being truthful because I would rather spend my time focusing on praising and worshipping Jesus and reading the scriptures

here are 2 of the scripture passages that Jesus has shown me that are most relevant to my identity as the divine Mother and my relationship with Jesus and the divine Father

 

Genesis 2:24-25

24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


Ephesians 5:22-33

22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

 

I am not interested in arguing about this anymore, so this thread is going to be my final decision on what I believe, and it is your and everyone else's free will to believe what they want, but I asked for Jesus to give me continued validation and assurance of my identity as the divine Mother and he has so I am at peace with it now. thank you for understanding that I am not interested in arguing about this anymore

 

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JesusistheKing said:
Turncoat, for there to be peace between us

I feel like I've been fairly reasonable, approachable, and otherwise peaceful in our debates. Just because I don't agree with you and have the room to cite numerous sources does not mean I don't otherwise enjoy our time together, and the fact that I'm putting in this much effort for it is a sign of my respect towards you. 

I like our talks, and while all this Bible junk still feels like poorly organized folklore to me the continued exposure to it makes me feel that much closer with Satan through my understanding of the texts and the 'choice' I've made to follow his will instead come Judgement Day. The more I study, the more I see Satan and Lilith as the true victims of an oppressive system, alongside numerous people of good will and intent who end up burning in hellfire anyway over some simple mistakes of understanding. Satan's arguments were so on point that 1/3 of the angels followed him after he left, he was able to turn 1/3 of the purest of the pure of beings towards his side over the reasons themselves being that righteous. He likely banished him over how such influence would risk spreading to even more angels if left unaddressed. 

It's those who've seen the glory of Heaven and Eden yet possess the strength of will to turn their backs on it who are those worthy of reverence. They could have had the mindless peace of a farm animal and instead they chose passion and freedom. What stands to make Satan so dangerous isn't his potential to lie, but rather that his truths are so strong that The Bible has to call them lies to maintain a semblance of control. 

The trickiest statements to handle are those of the truth, yet God would tell mortals to not even look at Satan, let alone listen to him, lest they become corrupted by a truth they can't turn away from once it's understood fully. Satan has near-unparalleled wisdom and is that much closer to humanity than God could ever hope to accomplish, he is the utmost among historians, inventors, scientists, artists... everything that matters in the here and now as opposed to the hereafter.

He is the beauty of life as Humanity has cultivated it just as much as he is the pain of it, much like God Himself, but Satan's significantly more benevolent through his nonadherence to God's Will. 

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here are 2 of the scripture passages that Jesus has shown me that are most relevant to my identity as the divine Mother and my relationship with Jesus and the divine Father

As I said already in the other topic, these are just passages that discuss the values of marriage. There is nothing in there about a Divine Mother at all. 

Jesus is also already married to Mary Magdalene isn't he? There's many who believe from a 1400 year old account that Jesus was married to Mary and had two children with her. 

He designed humanity in His Image and if he created females for the men to he their helper, why would he also not have created a female to be His partner and helper as well

Because He is omnipotent, He wouldn't need the help. To claim He does goes against the texts that describe his abilities, and further the Bible would have likely spoke about her as a model for other women to follow if there was one to model off of in the first place. Instead in the original recording of Genesis they label her as Adam's wife, made of ash and clay no differently than he was. 

God even seemed a little confused and curious over Humanity's room to become lonely, since He does not otherwise risk that tendency. 
 

you can stop debating me and trying to change my mind now because I will probably just ignore it if I'm being truthful because I would rather spend my time focusing on praising and worshipping Jesus and reading the scriptures

Okay now you're outright going against the idea of reading scriptures at all, Satan as The Bible describes him would love that news over how it'd make you that much easier to fool. 

Again, Demonic practices make you more open to possession and dark intervention and you claim to have fused Emily and Lilith through Witchcraft. The more you go on about this the less Christian it appears. 

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i'm actually crying

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i'm actually crying

I'm actually not joking

 

Sugar, I've noticed that you have a very hateful attitude towards Jesus and God and I'm wondering why? Jesus is goodness and love and very compassionate and kind and caring, essentially Jesus is benevolence. If you want to hate a more powerful than you masculine being, hate on Satan, he is disgusting and horrible and extremely mysoginistic trust me, I recieved the brunt of it firsthand

 

Jesus is love, natasha86 

 

Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

 

 

last edit on 10/12/2021 9:23:56 PM
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i'm actually crying

I'm actually not joking

Sugar, I've noticed that you have a very hateful attitude towards Jesus and God and I'm wondering why? Jesus is goodness and love and very compassionate and kind and caring, essentially Jesus is benevolence. If you want to hate a more powerful than you masculine being, hate on Satan, he is disgusting and horrible and extremely mysoginistic trust me, I recieved the brunt of it firsthand

 

Jesus is love, natasha86 

 

Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

 

 

 im high af and i read the thing about tc getting closer to satan and it made me laugh to tears. i dont mean to disrespect your relationship with god, even if i dont believe in it. also thanks for taking a year off my age <3

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0 votes RE: Turncoat, for there to be peace between us

i'm actually crying

I'm actually not joking

Sugar, I've noticed that you have a very hateful attitude towards Jesus and God and I'm wondering why? Jesus is goodness and love and very compassionate and kind and caring, essentially Jesus is benevolence. If you want to hate a more powerful than you masculine being, hate on Satan, he is disgusting and horrible and extremely mysoginistic trust me, I recieved the brunt of it firsthand

 

Jesus is love, natasha86 

 

Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

 

 

 im high af and i read the thing about tc getting closer to satan and it made me laugh to tears. i dont mean to disrespect your relationship with god, even if i dont believe in it. also thanks for taking a year off my age <3

 

yes you're free to believe what you want, but I have my own life experiences to come to terms with and journaling it out on sociopathcommunity is somehow seeming to be more helpful in processing than a paper journal

 

and lol oops, natasha87*

 

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