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Lenalee said: 

Idk how to do this, one of you loons that takes this stuff seriously tell me what i am and why it matters thnx 

We'd need your time of birth (and where it happened). 

The Sun's roughly the month, the Moon's closer to the day, and The Ascendant's related to the hour (the minute matters too though for accuracy). 

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last edit on 10/10/2021 4:38:27 PM
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If you were born between 4am and 6am, your ascendant is the same as your sun sign.

The day is segmented into a 24 hour wheel, 2hours for each sign. So the 2am to 4am slot is the sign before yours, and the 6am to 8am slot is the sign after.

eg: I was born at 3:56am and my sun sign is cancer.

 

No need to adjust for time zones.

 

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Xena said: 

If you were born between 4am and 6am, your ascendant is the same as your sun sign.

Does that remain true across the year? 

There'd need to be some sort of offset if it changes each month. 

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last edit on 10/10/2021 5:03:44 PM
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Lenalee said: 

Idk how to do this, one of you loons that takes this stuff seriously tell me what i am and why it matters thnx 

 lol

I use it in superficial settings where there is no time for deep heart to heart talks, as a mnemonics device to remember stuff like a person's birthday, sports interests, hobbies, etc.

According to the mythology, a person's rising sign defines the facades that are perceived by the rest of the world, that are part of, but far from the entire depth and breadth of the individual's personality.

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Xena said: 
Lenalee said: 

Idk how to do this, one of you loons that takes this stuff seriously tell me what i am and why it matters thnx 

 lol

I use it in superficial settings where there is no time for deep heart to heart talks, as a mnemonics device to remember stuff like a person's birthday, sports interests, hobbies, etc.

According to the mythology, a person's rising sign defines the facades that are perceived by the rest of the world, that are part of, but far from the entire depth and breadth of the individual's personality.

Yeah it's basically their superficial script they follow over how they think the world behaves, which can be in sharp contradiction to their own energy (their sun) and deep needs (their moon). 

The houses get pretty fun to dissect, especially on weirdos with a stagger. 

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Xena said: 

If you were born between 4am and 6am, your ascendant is the same as your sun sign.

Does that remain true across the year? 

There'd need to be some sort of offset if it changes each month. 

 Shit yes. I forgot about Daylight Savings Time.

That matters.

 

I had my chart done by a professional astrologer at the WCC, so I'm not entirely sure what needs to be done to compensate. The changes in the Heavens from season to season often look freakin apocalyptic where I am. Less so in other places.

Lena's in a place where it doesn't even snow, so I'm not sure if that Tropic of Cancer/ Tropic of Capricorn variable affects anything.

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Lenalee said: 

Idk how to do this, one of you loons that takes this stuff seriously tell me what i am and why it matters thnx 

We'd need your time of birth (and where it happened). 

The Sun's roughly the month, the Moon's closer to the day, and The Ascendant's related to the hour (the minute matters too though for accuracy). 

 Actually, the moon stays in each sign for around fifty smthg hours.

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Xena said: 
Xena said: 

If you were born between 4am and 6am, your ascendant is the same as your sun sign.

Does that remain true across the year? 

There'd need to be some sort of offset if it changes each month. 

Shit yes. I forgot about Daylight Savings Time.

That matters.

That too, but even just my doing some tests on my own birthday at Cafe Astrology didn't have the ascendant come up as Capricorn until 6am, while it's seemingly Sagittarian from 4am to 5am. Even jumping between the 11th and 21st of that same month throws it off a bit. 

I had my chart done by a professional astrologer at the WCC, so I'm not entirely sure what needs to be done to compensate. The changes in the Heavens from season to season often look freakin apocalyptic where I am. Less so in other places.

I'd imagine it offsetting gradually throughout the month, and they probably care about coordinate positions for the slight room it'd have to offset their ascendant, such as if they were near a timezone shift or something. 

Lena's in a place where it doesn't even snow, so I'm not sure if that Tropic of Cancer/ Tropic of Capricorn variable affects anything.

It does meanwhile still affect the amount of sun. From my time living there it was usually tons of rain, fog, and cloudiness come Winter. 

It still has me wondering how a child would act if born on a space ship or something though. 

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last edit on 10/10/2021 5:25:45 PM
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Ohio does Daylight Saving Time.

You were born in the northeastern US, no?

That hour is probably bc of that variable.

 

I've used that Cafe Astrology site, btw. They're not bad.

Unfortunately, they've started charging money for some things, and holding back key pieces of info that they used to give away for free 8 and 9 years ago.

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Xena said: 

Ohio does Daylight Saving Time.

You were born in the northeastern US, no?

New Jersey, but same time zone yeah. I tested it with California initially for the convenience of only having to type three letters (San), followed by a few others to check for variation after the fact. 

That hour is probably bc of that variable.

Adjusting the date by 10 days also adjusted the ascendant placement though, which it'd have to somewhat if it swaps to a different one the following month for your streamline* idea by the nature of a gradient. If it was always consistent for the four to six o'clock variable then my changing the day shouldn't have made a difference. 

I'd love to find an easy trick for ascendants though, I'm always stuck relying on websites for it. 

I've used that Cafe Astrology site, btw. They're not bad.

Unfortunately, they've started charging money for some things, and holding back key pieces of info that they used to give away for free 8 and 9 years ago.

Thankfully they aren't charging for the charts and wheels, as yeah Cafe Astro's been super useful. 

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