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It's also critical to mention that lack of ego/pride might be anti-leader traits, or traits that don't earn fear or respect like machiavellian seeks out constantly.

However that's irrelevant due to how fear/respect might not be the most optimal measures to take to survive in a society of fragile, insecure, snowflakes.

Machiavelli wrote a book not to teach how to be a machiavellian, but to expose how the masterminds behind the scenes think, and present it in a comprehensible form so disappointed idealists like him can take competitive and functional measures against deceit.

Real machiavellians never expose their secrets, what he did is contradicting for his <<own cause>> that's something all the edge lords/ fragile narcs still don't realize about the book "prince".

However...

As society evolved so did the best course of action, nowadays being the ultimate victim has more influence than being the ultimate badass. Cause respect has been replaced by snowflake mentality.

To reach a conclusion here is a quote:

Moralism is the most severe form of narcissism. And dpd's and modern machiavellians prey on that constantly to profit/survive respectively.

AizenTheTitanic said: 

I will keep this sweet and simple cause I know you're all too autistic to think past psychiatric / npc terms.

So focus.

You've also self-admitted to not being the best describer, so it's a two-way street. Better to look at our own flaws rather than presume it's others' mistakes immediately. 

DPD's survive by adopting the most fitting personality to adapt to their host, like parasites.

They're usually devoid of ego, pride, strong opinions, and they got no competence or any form of independence due to how is part of their disorder.

That strongly depends on their sense of Entitlement imo, but generally underling characters have less hangups over being less caught off guard by insults and junk. 

That type of personality is exactly what someone who wants to feel dominant and in control seeks out.

Now before you go "not all people are like that, that's only npd's/aspd's or machiavellians" blah blah.

You're wrong.

Machiavellianism in fact its self, is highly depended on filtering your words and actions to not - provoke the ego or anger of others.

Typically from what I've seen, people seen to be in a 'lower' position in the social hierarchy have others feel less competitive and fear-driven. You don't have to be full blown Machiavellian to make others feel comfortable, you just have to not look like you're trying to knock them off their tower, usually through some level of hospitality. 

It also isn't about not provoking people, it's closer to how not provoking them tends to work better, hence why we see that typically modeled after by 'higher' society. There are otherwise for a lack of better naming 'Submissive Barbs', little spikes of passive aggression they put in their words from their position of nonthreatening that still end up pushing the power figure overtime, usually with a messy sense of how to seek closure from it. 

This is what made high society such a mess; their constraints. The fact that they couldn't just speak their minds meant a lot either went unsaid or they had to find clever ways of saying it through double-speech. 

I met many DPD's in internet and in real life, they had the highest and most flexible social engineering personalities. They were anti-competitive and never caushed any trouble, they also constantly attempted to be either neutral or likable, or something in between.

Are you sure they were DPD, like officially, or did you see them with these traits and then labeled them DPD? 

You might just be seeing subby people, there's a lot of those, like a lot. 

I also knew a girl irl who was similar to that, I would try everything to make her sperg and nothing would work cause there was nothing she couldn't tolerate, she ended up begging me 2 AM outside my house and ringing my bell. Literally no shame at all. 

If she was begging you outside of your house at 2AM that's not... really being that accommodating, that's being needy. 

It sounds like she couldn't tolerate a lack of attention. 

And the worst part is, machiavellians have some sense of pride/dignity they cherish and keep hidden, they don't let it affect their functionality sure but. It's still there.

Wait how is this the 'worst' part, the idea that you can't seem to access it through surface level prodding? 

DPD's don't care, just allow them to latch on you.

For these reasons DPD's are far more difficult to deal with than npd's/aspd's/machiavellians, their lack of hostile intent makes them wayyyyyy too adaptable to practically everyone.

I find subby people easy enough to hang around over their 'can-do' attitude and lack of personal drive for what the group's going to do next. They also make the best hosts, since the host-sub tends to want to feel in charge of their space without wanting to push others too far alongside it. The only area that it gets difficult is romantically speaking, as two subs can end up sitting there waiting for the other to 'do something'. 

A lot of what's even pushed me to be brattier is seeing people not pushing themselves to do the things they really want to do. Sometimes, for someone to lead, they need another to push them over their own hurdles so that they can demonstrate strength. 

AizenTheTitanic said: 

It's also critical to mention that lack of ego/pride might be anti-leader traits, or traits that don't earn fear or respect like machiavellian seeks out constantly.

At the end of the day the actions we're doing are meant to please ourselves. I see the need to assert yourself as a bigger weakness, one that can be exploited by those who don't feel the need to try as hard. 

However that's irrelevant due to how fear/respect might not be the most optimal measures to take to survive in a society of fragile, insecure, snowflakes.

Already back to blaming the others... 

I do agree people are pretty fragile now, but enough exposure to a rougher mindset can force them to adapt somewhat. After enough of it they're ready to punch shoulders casually. 

Machiavelli wrote a book not to teach how to be a machiavellian, but to expose how the masterminds behind the scenes think, and present it in a comprehensible form so disappointed idealists like him can take competitive and functional measures against deceit.

Real machiavellians never expose their secrets, what he did is contradicting for his <<own cause>> that's something all the edge lords/ fragile narcs still don't realize about the book "prince".

I always saw a lot of Machs as so ego driven that some level of self-divulging of their own 'genius' would be next-to inevitable. 

Thankfully for them the appearance of pride and confidence, no matter how misguided it is, can be infectious on those surrounding them, and the means of bragging about themselves can work as a form of reinforcement against those crowding around them. Sometimes one of the best ways to be manipulative is over convincing those you're talking to that you're good at it, sort of like how a Hypnotist or Psychic works. 

However...

As society evolved so did the best course of action, nowadays being the ultimate victim has more influence than being the ultimate badass. Cause respect has been replaced by snowflake mentality.

It's closer to Herd Mentality. 

Much like I saw during my road trip with the rivalry between Seagulls and Pigeons, past a point it does not matter how much stronger you are if the other side has superior numbers. With three pigeons a single seagull would see it as 'too much work' and move on, even though the seagull could potentially win. 

Moralism is the most severe form of narcissism. 

At most I'd say that Moralism has been embellished and advertised to such a point that it's where people are trying to model now. It's not so much that Moralism is narcy so much as narcs (and others) will aim to weaponize it from it being the expectation. 

Spoken like a true codependent.

AizenTheTitanic said: 

Spoken like a true codependent.

From what I've seen, 'true codependents' tend to be more like the 'slave' genre from the Kink community, throwing away their sense of self in favor of uplifting their frontman (or frontwoman). The focus they'd normally put into promoting themselves is instead put into their idol-figure even to the point of supplication, of kissing people's shoes and shit of their own volition. 

They're like the sort of woman who'd argue that women shouldn't have rights. 

You practically described yourself with that response, just replace "woman" with "man" and it's you but in a milder version.

What is a DPD...? It's pretty hilarious how mainstream the DSM-IV, or whatever revision of DSM they have now, has become.

AizenTheTitanic said: 

You practically described yourself with that response, just replace "woman" with "man" and it's you but in a milder version.

How so? I don't see it. 

Well that's not my problem is it?