John Kellogg made it his life work to rid the world of sluts and letchers. Honestly, I personally don't like whores, but I can see why others might like them. I'm too... old-fashioned. In this world of new age bs, being old-fashioned is shamed by man-babies.
You're not a recovering slut you're a slut in denial who tries to adopt jesus complex to recover her self esteem and self worth cause you can't depend on blow jobs anymore.
I been watching your pathetic meltdowns for months now,
I always decided to ignore them cause you're too pathetic and desperate to deserve my time but this once I will do you the favor.
You will never stop being a slut, you will never forgive yourself, and you will never get rid of your self-shame and self hatred cause you can't rebuild the past.
Never, ever.
how long have you been a slut for?
"Hello, my name is emily, thank you for having me on sluts anonymous. i am a past slut. I used to posses a dildo and tie myself up and moan about collin, but now, i am a good little prude. I now keep my dildo in my moms basement where it does not tempt me anymore, i-" "when is the last time you actually had sex?!" "i have had plenty of sex on the web, i am what you might call an e slut, i-"
“So, really, you just enjoyed the thought of sex? A strong libido is hardly unhealthy. Was it cutting into your productivity in life? You know, Jesus did make distinctions that thinking lustful thoughts of someone is tantamount to adultery.”
as a jew, i dont see that as much of an argument.
You probably see me as a man, so I'll participate in this topic.JesusistheKing said:What do you truly think of sluts?
They're liberated, truly not caring about the 'Madonna/Whore Complex' woes this society tries to push on people. They do what they want and transcend the walls we're told hold us back by simply living life with less of a hang up over the room to make mistakes.
They tend to become pretty good at using people as they become more experienced with it too, recognizing the thirst patterns as they become more confident and less sexually wound up. With it comes a sense of comfort and pride similar to that of society's view of a man, except they get to do it as the quote unquote "Gatekeepers of Sex". They're also generally taken well from being that much more understanding of 'how to party', even getting free stuff out of the deal from those around them who see themselves as prospects.
There's sluts who come at it from a point of low self-esteem, but I'd argue that them abstaining would have it's share of problems equally.What do you think of women who want to wait until marriage?
They're misguided.
As a personal thing too, I can't consider someone who'd wait for marriage. I need to see if they understand how to be a proper sadist or I'm just signing myself up for problems.If you married a woman, what would she have to behave like in order to satisfy your marriage requirements?
Domineering, strong, sadistic, yet with a sense of restraint that shows control.
Ideally they'd have their own direction in life that I could tag alongside, too.As a slut, I was blind to the fact that men did not respect me or truly appreciate me or love me. I thought they secretly liked me more than women who had self-respect but that was a lie from Satan lol
Sluts are essentially a game of Hot-and-Cold for dudes, a drug really. They need it when they need it and once they've sated their needs they don't need it anymore until the thirst comes back. From associating sluts as pump-and-dumps however that tends to show an insecurity they have about the longevity for any relationship, which is usually what led to them looking for sluts in the first place.
If you ask me, the best slut is a 'Friend with Benefits'. It gets rid of a lot of the complications involved and lets the two mutually feed off of each other with many becoming long term relationships once they grow to know what to expect from them.
I otherwise see sluttiness as more human, more honest. It's the constraints of a jealous, prudish society that puts them down for succeeding in ways they don't think they could, usually within the lines of "If I can't just have sex with anyone and everyone, then nobody can". It's the arguably slutty type with self-control that can command a room as simply as knowing how to touch someone's shoulder the right way during a conversation, while it's prudes who find themselves alone in their rooms wondering why they're so alone.
just because someone is religious does not mean they are misguided.
just because someone is religious does not mean they are misguided.
I agree, there's many sex-positive religions out there that are on a better path.
just because someone is religious does not mean they are misguided.
I agree, there's many sex-positive religions out there that are on a better path.
rules for sex does not equate with a lack of sex positivity. There are just as many good reasons to wait for marriage as there are to not, and to say that a choice someone makes about how they choose to approach sex is Misguided just because you personally made a different choice is close minded. i never once called you misguided for all the different ways you decided to approach sex than me and its pretentious for you to do that to me, or to people like me, who made a different choice in their life than you. Whether you say prude, or whore, everyone has different choices and reasons for them and you should understand this of all people. as long as you are responsible that is fine, but like any responsibility, different people can choose different ways to approach it depending on who they are and where they come from.
just because someone is religious does not mean they are misguided.
I agree, there's many sex-positive religions out there that are on a better path.
rules for sex does not equate with a lack of sex positivity. There are just as many good reasons to wait for marriage as there are to not, and to say that a choice someone makes about how they choose to approach sex is Misguided just because you personally made a different choice is close minded.
That's fine and all, but I think holding back one's sexuality is itself repressive and symptomatic with a lack of self-understanding in the bedroom. Women typically need some level of practice on themselves to know what they need out of sex, so imagine being in an anti-masturbation religion when it comes to that? By comparison, a religion like Wicca for instance has been able to embrace sexuality, having it even as a part of their rituals for some groups, and as such they find themselves with a deeper understanding of the subject through such familiarity.
Sex is itself also a way of assessing the person you're intercoursing with, and with repeated sexual encounters also comes practice and understanding. It also removes the mystery of if the person you're about to commit yourself to is or isn't good in bed, their general stamina and speeds, even the room for pillow talk it opens up is eye-opening and helpful for learning who people really are. Without my own experiences with sex outside of marriage for example I'd likely have never even truly discovered my Masochism, or just my needs when it comes to bedroom stuff in general. Pre-sex I had no idea what sort of person I wanted, even the woman I'd almost married over a decade ago would have been two subs.
If there's anything the modern age has shown us, it's that the sexual world is very vast and diverse. Kink circles show that people aren't a 1-to-1 thing when it comes to pleasing everyone, and repressive practices over there being no sex before marriage is a very easy way to have people finding themselves not knowing who they are and what they want.
Sex is not just procreative, it's also a social act of exchange, of recognizing a primal synergy in how both people want the same thing. It's a way to really see into the heart of people and, through them, the heart of yourself, and I don't see any benefits in withholding that until marriage, but rather that strikes me as a form of willful ignorance. It also feeds an appetite that, when fed, can increase personal confidence, immune health, morale, focus... frankly, sexual repression makes it harder to think and be productive.
i never once called you misguided for all the different ways you decided to approach sex than me and its pretentious for you to do that to me, or to people like me, who made a different choice in their life than you.
I didn't specifically call you out either, I made a general statement about people who withhold sex until after they're married. I see it as stunting their social growth to hold themselves back on an otherwise very natural experience.
Whether you say prude, or whore, everyone has different choices and reasons for them and you should understand this of all people. as long as you are responsible that is fine, but like any responsibility, different people can choose different ways to approach it depending on who they are and where they come from.
Yeah, people have choices in their own lives for how they wish to stunt themselves. I'm not stopping them from doing it, but from where I am I see a complete unwillingness to have sex pre-marriage as unhealthy and misguided.
Essentially, I think 'sluts' have the right idea as long as they're pro-birth control.
just because someone is religious does not mean they are misguided.
I agree, there's many sex-positive religions out there that are on a better path.
rules for sex does not equate with a lack of sex positivity. There are just as many good reasons to wait for marriage as there are to not, and to say that a choice someone makes about how they choose to approach sex is Misguided just because you personally made a different choice is close minded.
That's fine and all, but I think holding back one's sexuality is itself repressive and symptomatic with a lack of self-understanding in the bedroom. Women typically need some level of practice on themselves to know what they need out of sex, so imagine being in an anti-masturbation religion when it comes to that?
Not all no sex before marriage religions, or even those without the religion but just want to do it that way, not all of it is always anti masturbation. Karaite judaism for example, is not usually anti masturbation, especially for women.
(you: By comparison, a religion like Wicca for instance has been able to embrace sexuality, having it even as a part of their rituals for some groups, and as such they find themselves with a deeper understanding of the subject through such familiarity.)
I had a friend who was wiccan and still wanted to wait for marriage. (two actually) The steriotype that all wiccans just have pre marital sex is untrue, and only adds to the misperception of wiccans in society. in fact virgins even gold a special place in wicca.
(you: Sex is itself also a way of assessing the person you're intercoursing with, and with repeated sexual encounters also comes practice and understanding. It also removes the mystery of if the person you're about to commit yourself to is or isn't good in bed, their general stamina and speeds, even the room for pillow talk it opens up is eye-opening and helpful for learning who people really are.)
Yes, as i said there are many reasons to not wait for marriage, just as much as there are to do so. But just because there are pros to not waiting does not mean that someone who decides to do so is wrong. In fact for some people a "permanent" partner is not about the sex, and you could choose a partner based on character and learn to have sex in different ways together overtime as you grow and learn as a couple, Like me and my own husband, and have the sex be something you learn to enjoy together over time rather than get it right away due to past practice. i myself was a virgin on my marriage bed, and our sex was very difficult for both of us as bo had onkt had one other partner and i had never had sex before. but we learned and grew through thag and became more familiar overtime with both sex, and eachother.
(Without my own experiences with sex outside of marriage for example I'd likely have never even truly discovered my Masochism, or just my needs when it comes to bedroom stuff in general.)
That is you. You cannot use your own experiences and what choices worked for yourself to judge other people.
(Pre-sex I had no idea what sort of person I wanted, even the woman I'd almost married over a decade ago would have been two subs.) unless you chose a parner selfless enough to compromise And learn with. This does not mean someone else doing it differently than you is wrong.
(If there's anything the modern age has shown us, it's that the sexual world is very vast and diverse. Kink circles show that people aren't a 1-to-1 thing when it comes to pleasing everyone, and repressive practices over there being no sex before marriage is a very easy way to have people finding themselves not knowing who they are and what they want.) yes. Different people have different wants. And for some people, they choose to wait for marriage because thag is what they want.
(Sex is not just procreative,) Neither is marriage
(it's also a social act of exchange, of recognizing a primal synergy in how both people want the same thing. It's a way to really see into the heart of people and, through them,) Hm, sounds like a great way for a married couple to bond.
(the heart of yourself, and I don't see any benefits in withholding that until marriage), that is you. Not everyone.
(but rather that strikes me as a form of willful ignorance.)
No, a different path is not always ignorant, sometimes neither path is always right or wrong, it just depends on the person and their goals.
(It also feeds an appetite that, when fed, can increase personal confidence, immune health, morale, focus... frankly, sexual repression makes it harder to think and be productive.)
repression can also excercise self control and discipline and for some, it can do the opposite of what you said, and keep them focusing on other things better, such as self growth, rather than the opposite. for some people, wild and untamed sex, or even sex before marriage, can be a distraction for themselves. but as you said, it can cause bad as well the key is allowing everyone to do what suites them and having a more kind and accepting world.
"you quoting me: i never once called you misguided for all the different ways you decided to approach sex than me and its pretentious for you to do that to me, or to people like me, who made a different choice in their life than you."
I didn't specifically call you out either,(no but what you said was basically saying i, and all wjo chose the same path as me in this instance, are, even if you didnt have me in mind at the time.) I made a general statement about people who withhold sex until after they're married. (still applied to me and all like me in that sense) I see it as stunting their social growth to hold themselves back on an otherwise very natural experience. (this is to broad for humanity, humans are to complex to see in such a black or white categorization)
(you quoting me: Whether you say prude, or whore, everyone has different choices and reasons for them and you should understand this of all people. as long as you are responsible that is fine, but like any responsibility, different people can choose different ways to approach it depending on who they are and where they come from.)
(Yeah, people have choices in their own lives for how they wish to stunt themselves.) seeing it as stunting is close minded to other peoples perspectives and reasons
( I'm not stopping them from doing it,)
in a way what you say slightly contributes one thing or another to society and saying someone making this choice is wrong would pressure them in another direction that makes them uncomfortable just so people dont think of them as "wrong" just for being who they are.
(Essentially, I think 'sluts' have the right idea as long as they're pro-birth control.) birth control can fail in a variety of ways and sex in our modern age does in fact raise risk of pregnancy, and unwanted childbirth or abortion can be a terrible terrible thing for everyone.
Turncoat,
Let me give you my own story as an example. I did not feel sexually repressed. I liked being a virgin and had no desire to have sex. I saw sex as a maybe someday maybe never, and for a while i even saw myself as asexual, and I think i was. i joked in a sexual way, but i didnt actually want sex. Therefore waiting for marriage made sense to me, economically, reducing risk of std,s and pregnancy, and helped me focus on other things. Once i had sex for the first time with my husband, eventually i started to like it. Had i felt this way witb a fling back in the day and he left me, i would have needed tk find another partner to stop the distracting sexual urge. This would have been very risky for me, and also very distracting from my life and would habe ruined it. Different people function in different ways, and for me, the traditional path was the one that worked in this case. i wasnt misguided, in fact at once point i was an athiest and still wished to wait. This was just my choice and i made it for good reasons that worked for me.
