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tpp said: 

Have you ever connected with anyone? Can you describe how it feels? It is intriguing for me to watch how you humans operate. I can't understand it at all.

It feels like how they're feeling, but with them feeling to some degree how you're feeling as well. 

It's like an empathetic feedback loop. 

tpp said: 

I don't.... I feel like everyone around me is stupid, poor, and useless. I'm saying it semi-ironically.... but I do feel like that. I feel like I am surrounded by morons.

Not that I despise morons... I simply can't identify with them.

The majority of people carry this bias, but it's just their attempt to split themselves from the herd's mistakes.

Wisdom follows the realization that we're one of those morons. 

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last edit on 8/13/2021 11:54:29 AM
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have you ever considered the fact that although you might be intelligent, this perceived notion you have of being so incredibly intelligent you are unable to connect with anyone is just a product of your own grandiosity?

No, it never crossed my mind.

i was willing to keep an open mind to you potentially being as intelligent as you claim, but as time goes on you seem above average, but also extremely autistic and naive in a way.

Anyone intelligent has to be a little autistic to make it. I'm really peculiar about.... my tics. My obsessions.. Hobbies.. They're my tics. Whenever I am not the best.... there's a voice, almost like a nagging ringing voice, without the actual ring. It's there, distracting me until I'm the best at what I do. I'm not only autistic. I'm the best autist there is. Everyone knows I'm a genius... nobody IRL questions my intellect. Whenever I tell everyone I'm the smartest person on Earth, and they know it's true because I have things to show for it... and they love me for it. Not like here..... I have no malice towards any of you.. It's all in your head.

Natasha, you are even more autistic than I am. You are autistic in a good way, if you can believe me. It's one of the few strengths you have.

maybe you just think you're a genius in a kind of delusional sense?

I'm in the top 0.1% of the smartest people on Earth... at least top 0.1%. Very likely top 0.01%.

 

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Xadem said: 

You're wrong. tpp is a genius pretending to be slightly above average pretending to be a genius. It's brilliant. 

I don't not disagree with that.

Outro said: 

I generally assume that anyone eager to convince people they're a genius is usually a dumbass

Convince..? You people really think I care what you think about me.... when I say something, it's to let you know. What you do with that information... up to you. It means nothing to me if you think I'm a genius or a dumbass. Like I said before... the difference between me and you is that you're insecure about your intellect... whereas I am not.

It's like if I pointed out how you have no basis for making that assumption.... why bother? It's you who cares about it.. not me. I can save your face. You can thank me later.

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It feels like how they're feeling, but with them feeling to some degree how you're feeling as well. 

It's like an empathetic feedback loop.

How would you rate it compared to an orgasm on LSD?

The majority of people carry this bias, but it's just their attempt to split themselves from the herd's mistakes.

Wisdom follows the realization that we're one of those morons.

I can't make that realizations.... I've tried. I just feel like people really are idiots.

I can't help it. Everywhere I look.. I can't escape it. I'm surrounded by morons. I can inspect their actions... look at what they're doing... they're doing something stupid. It's not just that I'm harping on a mistake... haha he got that math question wrong. I feel the lack of intellect is a fundamental component of their existence.

It's maybe partly the lack of novelty. Lack of insight. Nothing about these people is even remotely surprising to me.. This stuff Outro is reguriating... Factually incorrect, misinformed, lacks basic understanding of epistemology. Not to mention... I've heard stupid shit like that a million times.

And people fall short. I've never met anyone who was... genuinely more driven, intelligent, and creative than me. I feel.... I could connect with someone like that. Someone who was as driven, as intelligent, and as creative as me. They also need to understand my thoughts and preferably be from a poor upbringing... Otherwise I won't respect them. But I feel like... nobody can meet my criteria. And that's why I'm lonely. I'm a romantic in a world of cruel reality.

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tpp said: 

have you ever considered the fact that although you might be intelligent, this perceived notion you have of being so incredibly intelligent you are unable to connect with anyone is just a product of your own grandiosity?

No, it never crossed my mind.

ok, maybe consider it?

i was willing to keep an open mind to you potentially being as intelligent as you claim, but as time goes on you seem above average, but also extremely autistic and naive in a way.

Anyone intelligent has to be a little autistic to make it. I'm really peculiar about.... my tics. My obsessions.. Hobbies.. They're my tics. Whenever I am not the best.... there's a voice, almost like a nagging ringing voice, without the actual ring. It's there, distracting me until I'm the best at what I do. I'm not only autistic. I'm the best autist there is. Everyone knows I'm a genius... nobody IRL questions my intellect. Whenever I tell everyone I'm the smartest person on Earth, and they know it's true because I have things to show for it... and they love me for it. Not like here..... I have no malice towards any of you.. It's all in your head.

i simply want to understand who you are, cos right now it seems like there are contradictions all over the place. what brought u to sociopath world in the first place?

also this 'no one questions my intellect' thing also screams autist. if there is an irritating autist, claiming that they are the best and most intelligent, who tf cares to correct them?

Natasha, you are even more autistic than I am. You are autistic in a good way, if you can believe me. It's one of the few strengths you have.

how am i autistic in a good way? tell me the traits you see in me that give you that impression.

maybe you just think you're a genius in a kind of delusional sense?

I'm in the top 0.1% of the smartest people on Earth... at least top 0.1%. Very likely top 0.01%.

being a savant type in one specific subject is different from overall intelligence in my view. you seem to lack emotional intelligence.

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The traits you have.... Frankly, I mostly view you as a drone who zombies here out of habit and aims for the low-hanging fruits.. I believe your attention span is at the level of a goldfish's.. because I have never quite seen you follow through on... anything. It's a bit of poking here and there, and then you sleepwalk again.

And... Although I have been positively surprised by some of our recent interactions... Nothing you've said thus far sounded to me like it went beyond any surface level depth.

I would say the positive trait, which surprised me, is that you are capable of listening and changing your opinion... I can appreciate that. I was not expecting you to backtrack on your narrative that I am too afraid to reveal who I am. It demonstrated that your opinion of others is an evolving one.... and thus that you're capable of learning when presented with new information.

I'd also label that behavior positively autistic, in light of the fact that you chose to follow at least a somewhat coherent and logical structure in your thinking as opposed to going for the social credit.

I'd say my emotional intelligence is... significantly greater than yours... or anyone's for that matter. I get things wrong here and there... but mostly it's a self-correcting process. I don't see people as very complicated at all. I believe I can more or less predict the theme of their next reaction.. and I believe I can understand why people have the aspirations and goals that they have... which positively reinforces my self-inflicted boredom.

being a savant type in one specific subject is different from overall intelligence in my view.

I'm also not a one-trick-pony.. I'd like to think I'm versatile. I have competed in sports at the world level, but I also have intellectual hobbies. I am wealthy, but my family and old friends are poor. I'm an idealist, but trust practical implementations. I believe in a God, but advocate for methodological naturalism.

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last edit on 8/14/2021 8:34:58 PM
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tpp said: 

The traits you have.... Frankly, I mostly view you as a drone who zombies here out of habit and aims for the low-hanging fruits.. I believe your attention span is at the level of a goldfish's.. because I have never quite seen you follow through on... anything. It's a bit of poking here and there, and then you sleepwalk again.

And... Although I have been positively surprised by some of our recent interactions... Nothing you've said thus far sounded to me like it went beyond any surface level depth.

I would say the positive trait, which surprised me, is that you are capable of listening and changing your opinion... I can appreciate that. I was not expecting you to backtrack on your narrative that I am too afraid to reveal who I am. It demonstrated that your opinion of others is an evolving one.... and thus that you're capable of learning when presented with new information.

I'd also label that behavior positively autistic, in light of the fact that you chose to follow at least a somewhat coherent and logical structure in your thinking as opposed to going for the social credit.

I'd say my emotional intelligence is... significantly greater than yours... or anyone's for that matter. I get things wrong here and there... but mostly it's a self-correcting process. I don't see people as very complicated at all. I believe I can more or less predict the theme of their next reaction.. and I believe I can understand why people have the aspirations and goals that they have... which positively reinforces my self-inflicted boredom.

being a savant type in one specific subject is different from overall intelligence in my view.

I'm also not a one-trick-pony.. I'd like to think I'm versatile. I have competed in sports at the world level, but I also have intellectual hobbies. I am wealthy, but my family and old friends are poor. I'm an idealist, but trust practical implementations. I believe in a God, but advocate for methodological naturalism.

 why have you only responded to the autism part of my post? also again 'I have never quite seen you follow through on...anything'..are u even trying lmao

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why have you only responded to the autism part of my post? also again 'I have never quite seen you follow through on...anything'..are u even trying lmao

Case in point.

And I didn't.

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To answer your question... Trying what? You asked me for my opinion, and I gave it to you. I am not "trying" to get to you. I explained how I view you. There's not much trying involved in an image of you that passively forms in my mind as a consequence of my interactions with you. But.... I would say your response to it is a good example of what I meant.

Here's the response to the rest of your questions:

ok, maybe consider it?

I considered it.

i simply want to understand who you are, cos right now it seems like there are contradictions all over the place. what brought u to sociopath world in the first place?

I heard about sociopath world from my good old friend Toby. I frequented other psychology-related forums before being introduced to M. E. Thomas' blog. I would need to see some example of these contradictions that are all over the place... before I can address them.

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last edit on 8/15/2021 10:02:14 AM
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Connection and bonding are just sound ways to rephrase "depending".

In the end you can't be independent emotionally or mentally, or stick to your goals and ambitions and you need someone else.

 

Besides the aforementioned. I personally never even understood what bonding or connecting is, it seems to be delusional, made up, and weak.

I can understand uniting with others to achieve a common goal or ideal, but not bonding. Never wanted it, never sought it.

 

Even in my past relation ships which went to hell and beyond, admittedly I was obsessed to a sickening level. But not with the person, but rather what that person could be molded to.

When that obsession didn't meet success, I "sperged".

But it was never about the person, I doubt I can care about a person as a person cause I understand people way too much. And they seem like replicas of each other with slight differences that I couldn't care less about.

On top of that I never desired consciously or subconsciously to be connected or loved. NPD mommies or even hard to get virgins seemed like trophies to me to add in my cognitive collection of accomplishments.

 

Now mind you, I'm an ego driven individual. Therefore all of this might be biased due to how it's filetered by my own personal bias.

 

Objectively wise however, speaking purely scientifically without any opinions but sheer facts. Evolution made people develop emotions of neediness or horniness to reproduce. 

The brain functions that activate "dopamine" serotonin" or other "good chemicals" are actually there for a functional purpose.

 

And it has been proven that romantic obsession can be as addictive as heroin.

 

Given all this, unless I see a person capable of doing something with someone not explainable with science or researches. I will never believe in bonding.

Unless it is ideological.

 

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