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SARS-COV-2 Lab Leak Summary


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There is a huge amount of data points that have been gathered on the lab leak theory/hypothesis.

 

1) SARS-COV-2 is a human virus, it's specifically adapted to humans. It binds to human ACE2 better than any other animal. How did this happen? Serial passage in humanized lab mice? or a random 1 in a billion lighting strike in nature?

In silico comparison of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-ACE2 binding affinities across species and implications for viral origin https://export.arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.06199.pdf Nikolai Petrovsky

 

2) SARS-COV-2 shows no sign of adapting to humans like a natural zoonotic virus does.

SARS-CoV-2 is well adapted for humans. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.073262v1.full.pdf Alina Chan, so cool!

 

3) SARS-COV-2 does not bind well to bats, this is no bat virus.

 

4) SARS-COV-2 jumped to humans in the fall of 2019 fully formed to infect humans

No sign of natural evolution mutating towards a new host. No time to evolve in humans.

An evolutionary portrait of the progenitor SARS-CoV-2 and its dominant offshoots in COVID-19 pandemic

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.24.311845v3.full.pdf

"This time line puts the presence of proCoV2 late‐October to mid‐November 2019 that is consistent with some other reports, including the report of a fragment of spike protein identical to Wuhan‐1 in early December in Italy 18,20,29–31"

 

 

 

5) SARS-COV-2 has significant mimicry with humans and mice. How does this happen in nature?

Molecular mimicry between SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein and mammalian proteomes: implications for the vaccine

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7499017/

 

6) Lab viruses can be engineered with no signs of lab manipulation. You cannot tell a lab made virus from a natural virus.

 

7) WIV was and probably still is doing GOF research on coronaviruses, 2015 paper showed evidence of fully infectious genetic clones.

 

This list for the lab leak goes on an on.

more to come

 

 

 

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last edit on 7/6/2021 7:10:45 AM
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https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.YOThpzqIaCh

https://zenodo.org/record/4073131#.YOThxDqIaCh

https://zenodo.org/record/4650821#.YOTh1DqIaCj

Some good reading

 

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https://yurideigin.medium.com/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

 

 

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Here is the pathetically weak rebuttal

"

As for the vast majority of human viruses, the most parsimonious explanation for the origin of
SARS-CoV-2 is a zoonotic event. The documented epidemiological history of the virus is
comparable to previous animal market-associated outbreaks of coronaviruses with a simple
route for human exposure. The contact tracing of SARS-CoV-2 to markets in Wuhan exhibits
striking similarities to the early spread of SARS-CoV to markets in Guangdong, where humans
infected early in the epidemic lived near or worked in animal markets. Zoonotic spillover by
definition selects for viruses able to infect humans. The laboratory escapes documented to date

have almost exclusively involved viruses brought into laboratories specifically because of their
known human infectivity.

There is currently no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 has a laboratory origin. (See above) There is no evidence
that any early cases had any connection to the WIV, in contrast to the clear epidemiological links
to animal markets in Wuhan, nor evidence that the WIV possessed or worked on a progenitor of
SARS-CoV-2 prior to the pandemic. The suspicion that SARS-CoV-2 might have a laboratory
origin stems from the coincidence that it was first detected in a city that houses a major
virological laboratory that studies coronaviruses. Wuhan is the largest city in central China with
multiple animal markets and is a major hub for travel and commerce, well connected to other
areas both within China and internationally. The link to Wuhan therefore more likely reflects the
fact that pathogens often require heavily populated areas to become established 20 .

We contend that there is substantial body of scientific evidence supporting a zoonotic origin for
SARS-CoV-2. While the possibility of a laboratory accident cannot be entirely dismissed, and
may be near impossible to falsify, this conduit for emergence is highly unlikely relative to the
numerous and repeated human-animal contacts that occur routinely in the wildlife trade. Failure
to comprehensively investigate the zoonotic origin through collaborative and carefully
coordinated studies would leave the world vulnerable to future pandemics arising from the same
human activities that have repeatedly put us on a collision course with novel viruses.

"

Such weak arguments.

They keep saying there is substantial evidence supporting zoonotic, but we have no data.

They want you to take their word for it based on "science reputation" This is so obvious.

Please find data and post here.

https://zenodo.org/record/5075888#.YOe-lDqIbs0

 

 

 

 

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0 votes RE: SARS-COV-2 Lab Leak Summary

 

https://zenodo.org/record/4477081#.YOfr_1lKjs0

A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived

 

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honestly, if i was a doctor i might just get rich by pretending i was 'telling the truth' and give these desperate nutjobs what they're begging for. pick a few countries by random that were 'in on it' and pretend my life was being threatened lmao. i would get jumpy and look around while i was recording

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honestly, if i was a doctor i might just get rich by pretending i was 'telling the truth' and give these desperate nutjobs what they're begging for. pick a few countries by random that were 'in on it' and pretend my life was being threatened lmao. i would get jumpy and look around while i was recording

sounds like a good idea.

desperate nutjobs, which ones? and what are they begging for?

do you have any point or opinion about the topic?

 

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LiYang said: 

honestly, if i was a doctor i might just get rich by pretending i was 'telling the truth' and give these desperate nutjobs what they're begging for. pick a few countries by random that were 'in on it' and pretend my life was being threatened lmao. i would get jumpy and look around while i was recording

sounds like a good idea.

desperate nutjobs, which ones? and what are they begging for?

do you have any point or opinion about the topic?

 

 begging for any cunt with an MD or some kinda credentials (the same ones they scoff at when it's convenient)  to confirm whatever conspiracy theory they're foaming to believe in cos reality is too painful or confusing for them

it's not that i don't think such things could happen, moreso when there is no real evidence it just reveals how delusional people can be

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LiYang said: 

honestly, if i was a doctor i might just get rich by pretending i was 'telling the truth' and give these desperate nutjobs what they're begging for. pick a few countries by random that were 'in on it' and pretend my life was being threatened lmao. i would get jumpy and look around while i was recording

sounds like a good idea.

desperate nutjobs, which ones? and what are they begging for?

do you have any point or opinion about the topic?

 

 begging for any cunt with an MD or some kinda credentials (the same ones they scoff at when it's convenient)  to confirm whatever conspiracy theory they're foaming to believe in cos reality is too painful or confusing for them

it's not that i don't think such things could happen, moreso when there is no real evidence it just reveals how delusional people can be

Do you think the virus is from nature or a lab? Delusional? You mean seeking the truth?

 

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