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PD Protocol for Domestic Calls


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Respects to those who lost their lives, especially officer Inn, and his family, his loved ones, and all those who were impacted by this tragic day. 

 

Protocol for domestics, would like to understand training that goes into the police force for each situation and possibly educate or train people to be a bit more swift when encountering something so dangerous. 

 

Watch starting @6:07 

 

As it is narrated in this video, this officer had previous military background. 

 

Observe the difference between the way the other officers respond to the situation, vs the military officer. 

 

I believe if this same level of serious training was implemented in the police force, far fewer officer fatalities would occur. 

 

 

This is just for learning purposes, not to shame the officer or the police force as a whole. When there is a domestic violence situation, knowing the subject is reportedly losing their mind, and there is an unsaid possibility they could be armed because, it's America and everyone could have some sort of weapon. Why would you, go up to the door and just knock casually. This man has been accused by witnesses of injuring a woman who fled from the scene bleeding, and she didn't call police herself, which tells me she could potentially be very afraid of this man and what he will do- he could possibly have her child. Which, he did. And that's why she didn't call. 

 

Obviously the situation has already escalated to a criminal case, and the suspect at this point should be under arrest before he's even been identified, everyone in that house should of been placed under arrest for suspicion of harming the woman. 

 

But instead, the tone was innapropriate. You walked into an already very escalated situation, as if it was just, a casual day. Knocked on the door to say, what, "hey, were you beatin' ur wife? wanna put on some hand cuffs?" 

 

To someone who's out of their mind, irrate, and harming people. I wouldn't take that chance personally, to have the arrest go so casually. 

 

You can investigate and ask questions later, but containing the subject who could be armed should be first priority, as he is a danger to everyone else around at this point and in this case, a child. 

 

And it should be done in the same protocol other situations are approached that involve potential gun violence, hostages, etc. As it was unknown whether the suspect was armed or if others were in the home, i.e- children in danger.

 

Just arriving on the scene and knocking on the door, could have, in another situation, led the suspect to take their own life and life of the children or others inside. As this commonly does happen with unstable individuals trying to kill their wives.

 

So in my opinion, the way this was approached was just innapropriate, and dangerous, and resulted in, death. Often I've found in these fatalaties the officer dies because of annapropriate or overly relaxed and casual approaches to situations which, for some reason it was lost on them, how dangerous they were in reality. 

 

As you can see, military training makes a large difference, because every situation is taken very seriously and with urgency, and approached as efficiently as possible while prioritizing officer/civilian safety first and foremost at all times.

 

 

Major props to the guy who jumped in to save the child in the first video. He could of been shot and killed, or involved in cross fire, who knows. But he chose to act selflessly with zero obligation to do so and saved the childs life. 

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You should try doing some friends in real life so you could share your content.  

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I guess I could make a commentary channel, I didn't think of that before. Just analyzing and comparing body cam videos to go over logistical errors and things like that. 

 

I don't know if anyone would find that interesting, it's just something I enjoy for whatever strange reason I have taken quite an interest in it. 

 

Sort of wondering, where did we go wrong here? What mistakes were made, how could this of had a better out come. What methods were employed that were very successful and what methods are never likely successful based on evidence. 

 

Research basically. 

 

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Why don't police wear helmets? I'm sure there's a reason for it, perhaps it's possible in all the chaos the helmet could end up obstructing vision, peripheral vision or even hearing during crucial moments is my guess? 

 

I know it certain circumstances they might. Like at the Capitol Hill riot there were some wearing them.

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Another thing I've noticed cops do is they say, "don't do that" or some version of that, once or, several times as a suspect resists arrest and is attempting to flee the scene or do some other, unpermissable manuever like reach in their pocket, swallow drugs, or something of that nature that would obstruct justice. 

 

I've noticed that often, they will say it several times, giving them a longer leeway to flee the scene or pull out a weapon. 

 

Obviously this is ineffective 99.9% of the time, and while it's understandable why it feels natural to do in this position, it's not the best possible reaction to these occurances which are, at this point a physical combat situation, where the end goal is to have the suspect restrained. 

 

If the goal is restraint, and the suspect is clearly fleeing or obstructing justice, screaming at them not to do it as they are putting the keys in the ignition and the gear in drive, they have no intention of stopping and warning them, while it feels morally right, is just a waste of time and leads to more struggle and potentially officer fatality. 

 

I feel that it should be against training to say, "don't do that" and rather a subject fleeing the scene or obstructing justice should always be met with action or force promptly, without verbal warning. 

 

It would give the suspect less time to get away with what they are doing, and catch them off guard allowing the officer the upper hand to have the suspect readily compromised.

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this one broke all the rules. we could get really detailed here but the main huge glaring white elephant in the room is, put them up against the car and pat them down, temporarily cuff them. and then stand away from the vehicle by their side until back up arrives to do the search. 

 

why did he let him get back in the vehicle is beyond me. ive seen cops not even let you smoke a cig during a search. 

 

this was beyond relaxed, to the point the officer put himself pretty much immediately in danger 

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Blanc said: 

I guess I could make a commentary channel, I didn't think of that before. Just analyzing and comparing body cam videos to go over logistical errors and things like that. 

 

I don't know if anyone would find that interesting, it's just something I enjoy for whatever strange reason I have taken quite an interest in it. 

 

Sort of wondering, where did we go wrong here? What mistakes were made, how could this of had a better out come. What methods were employed that were very successful and what methods are never likely successful based on evidence. 

 

Research basically. 

 

 Just saying, your posts here are super trivial, like the everyday kind of stuff you would send your friends in cellphone.

You are a pretty girl, you probably have friends, why waste time in this toxic place?

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