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16. 'anything illegal in the car?" i hope not no.... 

his and krystals reaction were both like, unassuming and attempted innocent but also sort of like, 'if there is something its certainly not ours just going to plant that seed of thought right now' however cops don't fall for this particular excuse. it is all they can do is this case really though is try to blame someone else. as they're definately getting searched at this point and they know it. lol 

17. why'd you let her drive your car without a license. 

the perfect excuse when you appear to be on heroin, is to say 'i'm a diabetic' 

once again it's a two birds with one stone excuse, this guy is a pro. 

'i appear stoned beacuse i'm having a sugar issue.' 

'i let her drive without a license, not because i knowingly wanted to do anything illegal, but because i had to because of my emergent medical situation, surely you can understand police officer...'

18. 'and we were just going up the street' 

he ties in the lie, with a previous lie about where they were going, to further assert his innocence. he had this whole fake story to protect his innocence all laid out in 5 seconds flat in his head, while he swallowed crack cocaine. gotta hand it to em. and it actually lines up and makes sense. 

most people are not able to lie this well, and their stories don't really add up once all the questions are asked you can clearly see the holes in it. 

but his tied all together very nicely. it wasn't too over complicated, it was fairly simple. etc. 

most people get really complicated when they try to lie in these situations as well. and it doesn't add up well. 

19. 'you're going to jail' her: 'WHAT?" acts shocked... 'surely, there's a mistake here...' one last ditch effort to salvage the situation and buy time 

20. 'do you have anything on you' her answer: "mmmm" *changes topic* "WELL, FIRST OF ALL..." *turns around to talk to officer, avoiding arrest position where she is escorted into vehicle* she is physically buying time now by turning around and, resisting the arrest while appearing like she isn't resisting, she was just wanting to say something to the officer. it appears more innocent than it is- but its no different that being difficult to get into hand cuffs or running. 

21. conveniently has a medical emergency now that she is in hand cuffs. this is another go-to tactic but only if you're very street knowledgable and clever, then you understand this tactic does exist.

22. uses her knee as the excuse as to why she has to go to the hospital. clever to use a real injury as it's difficult to fake an illness these days with modern technology blood tests etc. 

23. finally tells the truth, her voice changes a third and final time to likely her most real self. "i just swallowed crack now take me to the hospital" 

not sure how true this is, may be another diversion tactic.

24. i think with her insistence she was going to be sick it was an attempt to get out of the back of the cop car, some cops don't want you to be sick in their vehicle it's true and she likely knows that somehow lol? but yeah... he would roll a window down for her at the very least in some situations.... could be an escape effort. i've seen it happen. 

24 attempts at thwarting arrest, some of which were two birds with one stone. it was very well calculated as well, which gives them another point just for cohesion, and another point as well for half decent collusion between the two and efforts to protect each other sufficing as collusion as well. 

round up to an average of 30. that's a very high score on the criminal diversion tactics score board. way to go. 

you're reaching pro-level bud. 

i would say there are three states. civilian stage, which is unknowledgable and unsuccesful arrest diversion tactics. and then the street pro level, which can be divided into three categories. level 1, 2, and 3. level 1 street pro level is where i would place these guys at. which is like, have frequent flyer miles at the airport. they've been around a while, and are long term criminals, likely with a warrant. then medium level would be 'experienced and resourceful.' aka, the kind of people who make deals with the police and get off on charges in clever legal loopholes etc. and then 'gang/affiliated' level who are very rehearsed in avoiding charges and are protected by a large group of individuals or establishments. 

all of these would likely reach a score under 50 on my thwarting scale. 

30 being the point where you reach 'street pro' level 1. 'frequent flyer'

40 being street pro level 2- 'experienced and resourceful'

and 41-50 being street pro- 'affiliated' level 3. 

just being affiliated raises your score if you have clear indications of it like tattoos, or if you have made it obvious to police by either telling them or them knowing you from around etc. because cops are aware they may be treading into dangerous territory or an area that is above their head, could get them in trouble somehow, or is futile attempt. 

And then past the 51+ score point, i would say at this point you are 'manipulative snake'

with 51-70 being basic manipulation tactics during interrogation and trials that are extremely clever and will earn you big points on this scale, as some require more effort and calcuations than others, and can be quite a large overhaul in attempt to conceal a crime or thwart. 

and then 71+ would be people who i would call 'the professional con man' 

and the title really says it all. 

these are very rare encounters, an example would be jeffree dahmer who if you study the case he succesfuly threw police off his track quite a few times before they were able to discover the truth. and someone who has a perfect score, is amanda knox. if you watch her documentary and trial, etc. i hate to spoil it for you, but her ability to throw off the trial was pretty stellar. 

Anything above that 101+ would be a genius. Likely, genuinely highly intelligent and high EG, high self aware psychopaths. Not many are heard of in media, but a great example would be a psychopath in the Ted Talk about what is a psychopath, who was able to to maintain an outside life somewhat somehow, after getting insanity defense successfully, and put into an asylum rather than given prison or death sentence. I believe he even had eligibility for parole, and he played the staff of his asylum so well, he was allowed to leave on certain days, and was also allowed to dress how he pleased with clothes brought in from the outside. Which normally shouldn't be allowed in a strict facility for the criminally insane. 

This is someone who would be considered top tier dangerous, but at the very bottom of the "top tier dangerous' category. 

then above that, you have military professionals or police, and political professionals who've become very corrupted, monarchs, royals, people in positions of power of any sort, as well as people who have congregated a large amount of power, control, and congregation supporting their criminal intentions. 

a great example of this category is Hitler, Stalin, Mousilini. Jeffrey Epstein, or Elizabeth Holmes.

they're likely powerful individuals at some time or another, due to the amount of wealth, power, etc, that they have collected for themselves. 

I remember reading in a history textbook about a guy who profited off of the great depression by forcing people into homes that they couldn't afford (yes, literally forcing them into it) and then binding them to contracts they couldn't get out of, something fucked up like that. Very corrupt mafia sort of stuff. 

These are scammers on a big time scale, multi-millions, who got away with it for a significant amount of time or even, completely avoided incarceration. People who have pulled off the seemingly impossible, by bending the rules of normal society. OR changing society, to suit their rules, and their own personal agendas. They're impact is, long lasting, and changes our world.

Also included with mafia is uh, terrorist organizations of course. The people who committed 9/11 are in this category. So you can understand the sort of ripple effect or devastating impact these kind of criminals at this level possess. 

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/22504/10-people-who-made-fortune-during-depression 

https://perell.com/essay/robert-moses/ 

^geniuses

Elaborate organized crime is fascinating if you're interested in it. Things with a lot moving pieces and parts that synchronize into a complex dynamic relationship. 

Another example is cult leaders, drug cartels, and human trafficking. 

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (movie) is a good example... double agents, etc. 

or people pulling off mass fraud schemes in the millions. 

Blanc said:

I've watched a lot of these scenarios

Why? 

RED FLAGS you've encountered one of these high calliber criminal individuals or manipulators at any degree on this scale. 

1. separatism 

they separate themselves from society in some way, or, try to separate you from it- from your friends, loved ones, children, and normal life and activities. 

if the person isolates themselves, it's an indication something isn't right- whether it could be mental illness, addiction, personality disorder, etc. 

2. control 

this person may have a controlling nature, and be quite high strung, very orderly, very strict, in an odd way. with minor idiosyncrosies, it may send them tipping. regarding themselves, their environment, or you, most importantly. 

if they are trying to control you, your relationships, your, private information, etc. 

3. frequent unexplained absence to unknown locations 

4. imposing, and getting their way somehow 

you find yourself somehow doing things for this person you didn't even want to do, but somehow they made it make sense. or, they may impose themselves into your boundaries before you were able to establish them, or ignore normal boundaries all together. 

borrowing your credit card, you car, showing up to your house innapropriately, constantly texting, constantly calling. lots of signs indicate lack of boundaries. but these are bad news usually for you, and whatever relationship you have with the person, i would tread lightly and try to distance yourself from them. they may even make efforts to ensure that is somehow difficult to do, making ties to you in ways where you're sort of stuck or wrapped around them and their will. 

5. good actor, good liar. to the point it scares you. 

this person may have incongruences that come up often. they say they didnt know this person yet, the person interacts with them like they do know them. they tell one person they're jewish and a virgin, but in another town 10 years ago, they were catholic and married with 2 children. they have great excuses lined up for every question you have about the sensitive area, or may even get defensive about it. they may have a two faced-ness about their character which you can observe, and seem to switch between personality pre-sets on a dime. 

they make up whatever they need to in order to get what they want, and they do it really, really well, by any means. 

this person is two faced, or has incongruencies in things they say and do. 

6. resentment and rage, unexplained moodiness, tension. 

an unexplained resentment of a particular grouping, establishment, etc (could be anything), that is passionate and very specific- without the person seeming to be affected by it in their life directly at all or having anything to do with it. 

7. general narcissism 

a lack of concern for others or animals, making weird comments or weird jokes, putting you down often, talking of themselves highly all the time, and constantly seeking yours or others approval. many more signs of this of course but. narcissists can usually be manipulators as well, and your relationship with them will likely inevitably be rocky due to their dysfunction. they may involve you in their risky or dangerous crimes, for example, or throw you under the bus for them... etc. everything always being about what they want or their needs. no consideration for you. 

8. the wheel of narcissistic abuse and love bombing or the opposite end, playing the hand of the victim to win your empathy. 

9. lack of records or people who know them in the area they claim to be from. no social media. etc. a ghost, essentially. moves frequently, or lives a very nomadic life style, moving every three months or, living on a boat. new in town is a good enough excuse, but then you start looking deeper and you realize, they have so real history of their life to tell you about, and not much good proof of one existing. 

Turncoat said: 

Blanc said:

I've watched a lot of these scenarios

Why? 

 I find them comedic but also I enjoy the 'dash cam' sort of reality feature to it, prefer it over TV because it's real people, in real life. I dunno. 

It's just how I take my mind off of my normal work and how my mind winds down or relaxes. 

It started with watching dash cam videos from people's cars, to iPhone confrontation videos or people catching things on camera, and then dove a little deeper into security footage and other weird creepier parts of the world like unexplained mysteries or diving into human trafficking, and then I got into true crime, which led me to Jim Can't Swim youtube channel, and that sort of opened the door to many more true crime channels, I actually started with nightwatch first, and then courtroom footage, and it led to police activity channels with the body cam footage, as well as a bit of that show I forgot what it's called by it's on A&E's youtube channel called like, Police Activity or something like that. I also recently got into watching undercover footage, an A&E show about police going undercover into prison systems. 

I think I just like seeing real people and real scenarios rather than a script most days. It's sort of a taste thing. In regard to entertainment. A lot of the time I'm not in the mood to watch fake shit, I don't know why. But I just lost interest, theres few things that I will watch and I find it more mind numbing rather than mind-stimulating and exciting. But just the fakeness of it is sort of low brow to me as well, and theres few tv shows or movies that are made to a degree where they are as satisfying as 'real raw footage' 

But besides that... also, I like sort of learning about it and being knowledgable about this topic. I've always had a fascination with true crime like I said, and all aspects of the justice system. Court room stuff, reading about law cases or, watching interrogation videos, or videos about yeah cases that have gone cold, or current like trials going on, murder investigations like, casey anthony or christ watts. 

I sort of became addicted to it, and then it led me to a fascination and a large respect for law enforcement. It's sort of like watching a football game like, you want them to win. You know? 

And for a police officer a win is, like a really big drug bust or, successful police chase. 

But I also like to see how it goes wrong too, to be knowledgable about that. And I like to see... all the things that they think of and have to worry about while on the job, as it can be enlightening for me to understand their position and all the things they're thinking about. 

Like, before I started watching these videos, I didn't know that putting your hands in your pocket can get you fatally shot. I dunno, it's just, like watching the logistics of it unfold sort of like solving a math equation and it's like, analyzing the people, the criminals etc, to see if I notice what the cops notice too, or I dunno. 

Sometimes it will surprise me with how 'attune' and sharp witted an officer is, and other times their experienced ness in the field pays off and it's something that someone like myself can be sort of fascinated by like watching someone with excellence do something well, and upholding a larger greater good as well that I can understand morally. I enjoy seeing there are moral people in the world with their head on straight and have their wits about them. 

I think partly as well, my grandfather was CIA espionage and my Uncle was special forces, air force academy, so I grew up with a lot of respect for these sort of bad ass occupations, and grew up really fascinated by them and like, I guess the fascination with it is sort of in the blood. If that makes sense. With my grandfathers passing, watching certain shows has helped me to understand like what he did, (what he really did) and... all my life I was trying to understand it, and so I guess consuming media relevant to it helped. 

I was confused by it, but I wanted to understand it all. I don't know why but I just wanted to get it... so when people in the family talked about it I could understand what they were talking about. They talk about a lot of stuff relevant to the CIA and other things like that, so it helps me to do research on the topics and understand it better, I'm also just sort of curious about it idk. 

At the end of the day, reality, once you know about it, is far more fascinating than fake TV scripts (usually), and the process of investigation and discovery is something I enjoy. Gathering knowledge of any sort relevant to all of it, is something I'm just interested by. So I know what questions to ask when it comes time to.

Also safety and security is something I like knowing about. Like how to be knowledgable it. How to protect yourself. How not to be a dumb ass in weird situations. 

Sometimes there's nothing better than a watching a good ol' drug bust though. Or the police activity can sometimes be quite funny or the nightwatch footage too... the people they encounter in places all over the world, they're all very interesting to me. The differences in culture and, just how they are different... they behave differently. 

And then yeah, sometimes they're just actually hilarious to me. But my sense of humor is a little weird. Some get it though. I don't know why I find swallowing cocaine funny, but I do. 

Or just watching people make the mistakes and sort of calculating it like "nope, shouldn't of said that now you're going to jail for sure" *eats pop corn* lol... and I just eat it up. It's entertainment. I dunno. It's like WRONG MOVE BUDDY oh no now he gonna get shot. It's like real life GTA. 

The comment sections are hillarious too or, in the criminal investigations they can be kind of interesting hearing people's perspectives there or on reddit etc. 

a lot of it is just curiosity and wanting to know more, in general. Once I get an itch about something or I get into something I like have to go look into it and know more about it. Because my brain is just like bothering me about it. It’s like “don’t you wanna know xyz?” And I’m like just trying to get the fixation to release so I can relax again but until then I get tunnel vision and it’s like... must find out. Must wrap my head around it and deem it complete so I can feel finished with whatever it was. Lol it’s a fascination but also a bit of a fixation too. 

 I’m this way with a lot of subject areas I think it’s just my personality or whatever. Something interests me or stimulates my mind in someway and then I just get into it. 

heres part 2 and 3 on the video btw 

"what heroin in my car?" lol 

Turncoat said: 

Blanc said:

I've watched a lot of these scenarios

Why? 

 she wants to know how to not get ticketed once she picks up the courage to move out from her narcissistic parents house

I watch a lot of these too. It's interesting to see how everyone handles the situation. Especially for shooting videos.