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Rhetoric Topic #2 - Dealing with the “Other”


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I am about half way through the reading and I decided I have to start writing my response because I have come across too many things to talk about. First, I want to say that it is very difficult for me to read this text because I strongly disagree with most of the claims it contains.

My response will be long. I hope this is okay because I have way too much to say for it to be the proper length. That being said, I will try my hardest not to write a full essay.

I don't believe that racism exists on the level that people claim it does. By this, I mean that in my entire life, I have never experienced a single instance where someone has been racist or has done anything that could be considered racist. I have talked to a racist person online because I was curious about why they were racist, and how they showed their racism, because I have yet to see an example in my life.

The racist person told me that he didn't like the way black people acted and I addressed all of his concerns and he, in the end, told me that he liked me but didn't like other black people because of how they act. To me that is not racism because it's not the race he hates it's ignorance.

He hates ignorant people, not black people. For him to say that he didn't like black people because of a generalization of how black people are, means that he is also ignorant. This means he shouldn't like himself either. I don’t like ignorant people either, and I believe that no one should like ignorant people, no matter what race they are.

If the racist guy is in fact racist, and that is the kind of racism that people are talking about when they complain of racism, then I am still confused as to why people care so much what ignorant people think. Why would someone care what a racist person thinks of them? A more general question along the same lines is why do people care what anyone thinks of them?

In the beginning of the reading, the author writes about challenging the way people understand and respond to sexuality. I think that we should do that for racism too. I believe that racism is created in the minds of the complainers when they perceive another people's actions as being racist. The way they perceive the actions of the person, is what places those actions under a category of racism.

This means that if someone followed a black person around in a store to make sure they don't steal anything, most people would think that is because of the person’s race. However, because we don't know what is going on in the other persons head, it doesn’t make sense to jump to such an extreme conclusion.

The truth could just as easily be that the shopper was carrying a large, empty Looking purse, which screams opportunity to steal. If the shopper were white, they would still have been followed. In my opinion, racism seems to not be about race at all, but instead, about socioeconomic status.

If a rich black person looks rich, they appear to be less likely to steal. Thus, they will not be followed in stores, whereas a poor white person who looks poor, will most likely be followed because they look like they need to steal to survive. Even if you think black people are all poor, when you see one that looks wealthy, you assume they are because they look important. People tend to associate importance with the lack of a need to steal.

This is why I get confused about racism. It’s not racism at all. It is classism.

 

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Later in the essay it says the author envisions politics where ones relation to power, and not their homogenized identity, is privileged in determining ones political comrades, but politics is already like that.

In the Republican Party, we have, currently, in a state that I do not remember, a gay mayor. That is proof that it's who you know, ones relation to power, and how you market yourself, which demonstrates your own influential abilities, i.e., your relation to power, which is the most important thing in politics.

You can be gay or black or Asian or whatever, as long as you are good at getting people to like you. As long as you are personable, you will get elected. It is more about the way you look. If you look like a politician, whether you are gay or not, people will vote for you, and back you up. Politics is very much based on your appearance, and not as much on your personal life.

It's all about who you know. The reading continues by stating that the sexuality of queers is fluid, so things change like their partners, and who they desire. This really helped me understand why a lot of my gay friends are marrying guys and starting families with even though they were gay for a long time.

I realized that being gay is complicated and your feelings may change. It also still confused me because I don't understand how these categories make sense if people keep switching from category to category. Our ideas about being gay or straight lead me to believe that my friends were never gay, but I know now, because of this class, that being gay is basically just a name for being different, but not even different.

I don't know how to explain it because it is difficult, but basically there is no straight and gay because we are all people who desire different things at different times and we change our minds constantly because we can, and because things influence us and our feelings change. We all just like people in general, and some of us even like animals.

We are technically also animals, so that is okay too. Right? I don't really know but I feel like one can argue that except for the fact that animals can't give consent, because they don't speak our language, people should be able to have fun with them too. Is that where we draw the line though, consent? Do we have to draw a line? What would our society be like if we accepted everything that people liked doing, and called it normal?

Is that what the argument is against queer people? Anyway, later in the text it uses the phrase "non-stable” behavior when referring to the queer community's willingness to confront normalizing power, but this seemed like an odd phrase to use because it made me think of queerness as a disease like bipolar disorder, because of the negative connotation of “non-stable.“

It just seemed a little out of place because the text is about queerness as a positive thing that should be considered normal. One of the quotes used by the author, said something about the oppression that all women of color face, and that was problematic for me because I have never faced oppression and I probably never will because I just don't think like other people.

I interpret things differently than other people who like to blame everything on everyone else. It's because he/she is racist or sexist or something else when it's actually because you do not have the skills to convince people that you are worthy of respect and admiration.

I feel like most things have to do with self confidence and the way you carry yourself. If people care so much about what other people think of them why don't they make themselves into what everyone likes? If you are attractive everyone will like you no matter how stupid you are or what color you are.

I am black and a republican, and I have met many republicans in my day. They have never been anything but nice to me. If they are guys, they like how I look. I have been paid more than any guy doing the same job as me. My first job was campaigning for this republican guy in Burlingame CA. I got paid $50 an hour to walk precincts when my friend, who is a guy got paid the normal $15 an hour because he said I was a "hard worker" even though I was always partnered with my friend and we did the same work.

I never experienced that salary gap that they always talk about that is in favor of men. I'm not saying I'm attractive but it is an amazing example of how racism and sexism are either avoiding me, in other people’s heads, or I am just amazingly special. Also, I thought that the statement about all women of color being oppressed was a false statement because it's not true at all.

On the same page as the oppression statement, is a statement about "the analysis of ones place in the world,” this whole paragraph confuses me because I don't understand why anyone would analyze their place in the world, see that it's a bad place to be because they are being oppressed, and then stay there and fight for the illumination of oppression. Why wouldn't you just change your "place in the world?” Go to school, get a good job, or get a makeover and find a husband or something like that.

Why do people like to dwell in places they don't want to be? I don't get it. Why would you not try to change if you don't like how people see you, and you care what they think? I don't care what people think of me so I dress crappy and do what I want, but when I want people to respect me and treat me like I matter, I dress nice and look how people think I should look if I want the attention that they can give me.

You have to work hard in life to get what you want. No one should have to give you what you want just because you think you deserve it. You have to earn it. You have to earn the respect of your peers or earn your position at a company. If you don't want to earn things then look like you earned them.

Dress like you have a PHD. Dress like you belong to the golf club. Dress like people in politics dress and you will be welcomed with open arms. If you choose to not earn things and not dress to fit in, then don't complain when you don't fit in, and instead, try to fit in. No one cares if you don't care, and no one is going to trust you just because you exist.

So why do people think they should just be handed a position as CEO or get a raise just because they exist, or not be followed in stores even though they choose to look like a potential thief? I don't get why people don't understand that these issues are not due to race or gender or sexuality but are due to the way you allow people to see you. The way you portray yourself to the outside world.

On the next page of the work the author makes a great point about how white queer rich people don't have it the same as black poor queer people. I think this is a point that helps my argument because you can look rich, be black and straight, and you will not deal with racism because you have other things going for you that make you fit in better.

If you are queer and you still want to be accepted, then you should look like you are rich and you will be accepted. Also, I still have issues with the fact that queers are not accepted in society, because again, I used to skip and hold hands with my friends who happen to be girls, in high school all around campus, and no one ever said anything about us being gay or anything like that and in my experience I have never heard a bad thing about gay people except from the weird church that is evil.

They obviously are not people that should matter in our society and especially not to queers because they are ignorant and intolerant and why would anyone care about those kinds of people? I should end this now because I think I wrote an essay but my main take away point is that people care way too much about what other people think of them and for as much as they care, they don't put enough effort into fitting in when they want to.

I think if you care that much then you should try harder in other areas so the one where you differ isn't as big of an issue. Also, other people don't matter. It's all about what you think of yourself and how you want the world to see you. People are way too obsessed with the opinions of others and they complain too much about people not seeing them how they see themselves, even though other people's opinions don't matter, like I said earlier. Sorry that my response is so long and so radical and so opinionated but the world and the people in it, in my opinion, have really messed up priorities.  

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i thought u liked racists. u dumb nigger slut.

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Matrix said: 

i thought u liked racists. u dumb nigger slut.

 I like racists because I like stupid people, but I like stupid people because I envy them, not because I value them as people. 

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