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Turncoat said: 

NotImportant said: 

Sorry, I’m not sober, so my thoughts are focused on feelings for some reason.

Wait, didn't you quit drinking, or do you just drink beer now? 

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 Yeah, I don’t drink anymore.

So you weren't sober from smoking, yes? 

Also, the reason I’m so good at figuring people out is because I know what people worry about because people like to tell me everything about their insecurities, so I have developed several techniques for extrapolating the data I have collected over the years from various people, and using it to figure out what a given person cares about. My brain is like a computer in that way, but what I do is use the data and put myself in that person’s place and that helps me figure out what they would think and feel in any given situation.

If I were you, I'd stop patting yourself on the back enough to notice you aren't that great at it. 👌

You openly drop how you think people are feeling, it's wrong the majority of the time, and it's inconsistent based purely on what you need to be the case to feel better about yourself. It's almost entirely Solipsist, which is the shit you usually read about being the case with parents on /r/raisedbynarcissists/.

The only times I have been wrong were when I tried to use that methods to understand how the guys I date think and I’m feel. It never works because I have no data on that. 

More likely, this is the area people correct you the most, and if you'd pay attention to more than just yourself you'd be able to actually use said 'data'. 

If you're going to keep up drugs like you're so prone to doing, you need some sort of depersonalization experience imo, like a K-Hole or an LSD trip with tons of 'I don't matter' themes. 

They never tell me how they feel and I’m too scared to ever do my poking method

Uhh..?

They seem to tell you quite a lot, it just tends to not fit your narrative. You're given about the same amount of info as Med, and you both seem to do just as much with it. 

You need to let go of the handheld mirror for a good five or ten seconds, minimum. 

That way, when I go to parties, I always have an option that I know is clean and attractive, so I know it’s not just the alcohol making them look good to me and I’m not going to catch anything, and I might get a boyfriend out of it. 

/cough cough herpes cough

 I think you’re projecting. I am not talking about the people here when I talk about what people say and do. I’m not good at reading people online because I have only been on here and my email for online stuff and I haven’t figured out how to adapt my methods to the internet because I can’t tell when people are lying and can tell what they feel based on the words they wrote, but that doesn’t work here because they may not have a big enough vocabulary to be able to choose their words wisely, so it doesn’t work.

Guys here tell me what they feel, but how do I know if they are lying or not. They often tell me only food things and then when I get scared and leave, they switch and say bad things. How can I trust anyone if everyone does that? Even Chapo said he hates me twice and then has said he loves me too. I have no idea when to believe them.

Freaking Jim was going to marry me and take me to Romania, but then he claims he just wanted to go to the US. It’s impossible because I wanted to escape the US, which is why I went to him. I can see if he wanted that after I went back, but he was begging long before that, so his lies are stupid. C4 lies too and Trypt was the best liar ever. I my felt loved and cared for. It was magical. Like floating on a cloud. Now he says he never loved me when before he said the exact opposite.

I like to believe people when they say things, so I’m torn and that’s why I seem regarded and like I’m unable to function at all in relationships or reflect in my failures. Am I to believe no one and everyone who says it is a liar? Or does everyone love me and then lie about it when I ditch them because they’re hurt? I just don’t know what to think. I obviously am drawn more towards the no one loves me side because I done even like myself, but in real life, I can tell what people feel and I can’t ignore that fact.

I’d say the person who was the hardest to read in person was Trypt, but I could tell he got super jealous when I texted my friend about being president and at the same time, Old Timer texted me too. Also when Chapo first told him how much he liked me and why, he was not very happy that I wanted to talk to Chapo, and he said I could possibly have his children one day, so there was something there, but apparently it wasn’t love, so what is love?

Would it mean I loved him if I fixed myself and waited for him while I did it? Or, is it love because I can’t wait for him or I’d go insane because of how I feel? Is it love because I want to give Chapo all of the love I have because he is willing to accept it in the future? And does accepting someone’s love mean you love them? This is why I’m a failure in this area. I think too much and it usually ruins things for me. 

NotImportant said: 

I think you’re projecting.

You probably think that from not understanding it. 🤣

I am not talking about the people here when I talk about what people say and do. I’m not good at reading people online because I have only been on here and my email for online stuff and I haven’t figured out how to adapt my methods to the internet because I can’t tell when people are lying and can tell what they feel based on the words they wrote, but that doesn’t work here because they may not have a big enough vocabulary to be able to choose their words wisely, so it doesn’t work.

Who are you claiming on this website can't follow your vocabulary? That's a bit farfetched, this is a forum constituted almost entirely out of words, they're likely better with them than the people you're seeing IRL and the words you're using aren't 'advanced' or whatever. I've heard Med go on about the exact same thing before fumbling through weird medical words at young people. 

Seems almost like you had to follow it up with it being someone else's fault while trivializing your lack of ability after admitting to your own potential fault. Why do you figure others are better at reading each other online than you are? 

The words coming from angry minds tend to be more truthful, as this is likely the things they haven't been saying to your face when they thought they could get something out of you. This is why I prefer provocation with strangers; I learn more. 

Guys here tell me what they feel, but how do I know if they are lying or not.

Social Intelligence, something usually gained from talking to enough different people while allowing it to be about them instead of yourself. 

I don't find it that difficult personally. 🤷

They often tell me only food things and then when I get scared and leave, they switch and say bad things.

They tell you what you want to hear in order to get the things they want, much like you try to do to others but give yourself away over constantly. 

Being a user who's bad at the game begs your being used, but then you start lamenting over how you can't manipulate people into manipulating you while they're manipulating you and it just gets weird. 

How can I trust anyone if everyone does that? Even Chapo said he hates me twice and then has said he loves me too. I have no idea when to believe them.

The old hot-and-cold huh? It's shameful how well this works on people when they don't want anything permanent. 

Makes sense that'd work on you, you make it too easy girl. The way to lock someone in is to present yourself as a challenge, not as the local whore. 

Freaking Jim was going to marry me and take me to Romania, but then he claims he just wanted to go to the US. It’s impossible because I wanted to escape the US, which is why I went to him. I can see if he wanted that after I went back, but he was begging long before that, so his lies are stupid. 

He's impulsive, both were honestly what he meant at the time. 

You of all people I'd figure would excuse people for their inconsistency, lest they point out those problems in you. 

C4 lies too and Trypt was the best liar ever.

Man you're throwing C4 under the bus again, just because you assaulted him? 

Why are you going on about Tryp being 'worth it' and being 'the best liar ever'? You're inconsistent, or by your 'advanced vocabulary' you'd be calling yourself 'a liar' too. 

I my felt loved and cared for. It was magical. Like floating on a cloud. Now he says he never loved me when before he said the exact opposite.

You did this to yourself, it was idealist daydreams you self-inflicted on a person who agreed with you from the beginning that it wasn't going to become anything permanent. This was also during his Blanc drama, meaning he'd want something even less permanent from that association. 

It's hard to see you as a good people reader when your blunders are narrated for a wide audience to see. 

I like to believe people when they say things, so I’m torn and that’s why I seem regarded and like I’m unable to function at all in relationships or reflect in my failures. Am I to believe no one and everyone who says it is a liar?

It's not about if you do or don't like to believe people when they say things, it's about little tells and hints that give away their intentions. People can't help on some level but communicate what's on their minds, and if you are used to paying more attention to others rather than yourself you'll pick those things out. 

Again, try putting down the handheld mirror, let it be about other people rather than about yourself through other people. Your making the human experience into this sort of feast-or-famine mindset is unrealistic. 

Or does everyone love me and then lie about it when I ditch them because they’re hurt? I just don’t know what to think.

I obviously am drawn more towards the no one loves me side because I done even like myself, but in real life, I can tell what people feel and I can’t ignore that fact.

Of course you don't like yourself, you're in love with yourself. 

IRL you're more likely not corrected over your mistakes like you are on here, or you're so wrapped up in your inner narrative that not being able to quote them helps perpetuate it. 

I’d say the person who was the hardest to read in person was Trypt, but I could tell he got super jealous when I texted my friend about being president and at the same time, Old Timer texted me too.

Sounds like a cope to convince yourself you weren't nothing to him. 

Also when Chapo first told him how much he liked me and why, he was not very happy that I wanted to talk to Chapo, and he said I could possibly have his children one day, so there was something there, but apparently it wasn’t love, so what is love?

How can you sit there disappointed over not being 'used' by people while they're using you? 

Would it mean I loved him if I fixed myself and waited for him while I did it? Or, is it love because I can’t wait for him or I’d go insane because of how I feel? Is it love because I want to give Chapo all of the love I have because he is willing to accept it in the future?

It's thirst and desperation, don't dress it up as more than it is. 

On some level you're getting off to the sense of competition as well I bet, you've gone on about it in both Chapo's and Tryp's case. 

This is why I’m a failure in this area. I think too much and it usually ruins things for me. 

More like you endlessly monologue ala Blanc while never getting anywhere, as if the speech itself is catharsis without anything learned. 

Turncoat said: 

NotImportant said: 

I think you’re projecting.

You probably think that from not understanding it. 🤣

I am not talking about the people here when I talk about what people say and do. I’m not good at reading people online because I have only been on here and my email for online stuff and I haven’t figured out how to adapt my methods to the internet because I can’t tell when people are lying and can tell what they feel based on the words they wrote, but that doesn’t work here because they may not have a big enough vocabulary to be able to choose their words wisely, so it doesn’t work.

Who are you claiming on this website can't follow your vocabulary? That's a bit farfetched, this is a forum constituted almost entirely out of words, they're likely better with them than the people you're seeing IRL and the words you're using aren't 'advanced' or whatever. I've heard Med go on about the exact same thing before fumbling through weird medical words at young people. 

Seems almost like you had to follow it up with it being someone else's fault while trivializing your lack of ability after admitting to your own potential fault. Why do you figure others are better at reading each other online than you are? 

The words coming from angry minds tend to be more truthful, as this is likely the things they haven't been saying to your face when they thought they could get something out of you. This is why I prefer provocation with strangers; I learn more. 

Guys here tell me what they feel, but how do I know if they are lying or not.

Social Intelligence, something usually gained from talking to enough different people while allowing it to be about them instead of yourself. 

I don't find it that difficult personally. 🤷

They often tell me only food things and then when I get scared and leave, they switch and say bad things.

They tell you what you want to hear in order to get the things they want, much like you try to do to others but give yourself away over constantly. 

Being a user who's bad at the game begs your being used, but then you start lamenting over how you can't manipulate people into manipulating you while they're manipulating you and it just gets weird. 

How can I trust anyone if everyone does that? Even Chapo said he hates me twice and then has said he loves me too. I have no idea when to believe them.

The old hot-and-cold huh? It's shameful how well this works on people when they don't want anything permanent. 

Makes sense that'd work on you, you make it too easy girl. The way to lock someone in is to present yourself as a challenge, not as the local whore. 

Freaking Jim was going to marry me and take me to Romania, but then he claims he just wanted to go to the US. It’s impossible because I wanted to escape the US, which is why I went to him. I can see if he wanted that after I went back, but he was begging long before that, so his lies are stupid. 

He's impulsive, both were honestly what he meant at the time. 

You of all people I'd figure would excuse people for their inconsistency, lest they point out those problems in you. 

C4 lies too and Trypt was the best liar ever.

Man you're throwing C4 under the bus again, just because you assaulted him? 

Why are you going on about Tryp being 'worth it' and being 'the best liar ever'? You're inconsistent, or by your 'advanced vocabulary' you'd be calling yourself 'a liar' too. 

I my felt loved and cared for. It was magical. Like floating on a cloud. Now he says he never loved me when before he said the exact opposite.

You did this to yourself, it was idealist daydreams you self-inflicted on a person who agreed with you from the beginning that it wasn't going to become anything permanent. This was also during his Blanc drama, meaning he'd want something even less permanent from that association. 

It's hard to see you as a good people reader when your blunders are narrated for a wide audience to see. 

I like to believe people when they say things, so I’m torn and that’s why I seem regarded and like I’m unable to function at all in relationships or reflect in my failures. Am I to believe no one and everyone who says it is a liar?

It's not about if you do or don't like to believe people when they say things, it's about little tells and hints that give away their intentions. People can't help on some level but communicate what's on their minds, and if you are used to paying more attention to others rather than yourself you'll pick those things out. 

Again, try putting down the handheld mirror, let it be about other people rather than about yourself through other people. Your making the human experience into this sort of feast-or-famine mindset is unrealistic. 

Or does everyone love me and then lie about it when I ditch them because they’re hurt? I just don’t know what to think.

I obviously am drawn more towards the no one loves me side because I done even like myself, but in real life, I can tell what people feel and I can’t ignore that fact.

Of course you don't like yourself, you're in love with yourself. 

IRL you're more likely not corrected over your mistakes like you are on here, or you're so wrapped up in your inner narrative that not being able to quote them helps perpetuate it. 

I’d say the person who was the hardest to read in person was Trypt, but I could tell he got super jealous when I texted my friend about being president and at the same time, Old Timer texted me too.

Sounds like a cope to convince yourself you weren't nothing to him. 

Also when Chapo first told him how much he liked me and why, he was not very happy that I wanted to talk to Chapo, and he said I could possibly have his children one day, so there was something there, but apparently it wasn’t love, so what is love?

How can you sit there disappointed over not being 'used' by people while they're using you? 

Would it mean I loved him if I fixed myself and waited for him while I did it? Or, is it love because I can’t wait for him or I’d go insane because of how I feel? Is it love because I want to give Chapo all of the love I have because he is willing to accept it in the future?

It's thirst and desperation, don't dress it up as more than it is. 

On some level you're getting off to the sense of competition as well I bet, you've gone on about it in both Chapo's and Tryp's case. 

This is why I’m a failure in this area. I think too much and it usually ruins things for me. 

More like you endlessly monologue ala Blanc while never getting anywhere, as if the speech itself is catharsis without anything learned. 

 Lol bro she hijacked my thread about my godly body to talk about herself bc otherwise nobody gives her views lool 

Turncoat said: It's thirst and desperation, don't dress it up as more than it is. On some level you're getting off to the sense of competition as well I bet, you've gone on about it in both Chapo's and Tryp's case.  Bro, some of what you said is accurate, like I do get something just from worrying stuff. I didn’t say my vocabulary was amazing. I said that they may not have a large enough vocabulary to pick and choose their words wisely. I’m used to listening to physics graduate students and electrical engineering kids, as well as kids from my school who were also smart. I’m still getting the hang of the idea that’d be on the Internet lies, while other people have been on the Internet longer, so they are used to thinking it’s a lie from the start. 

I’m not presenting myself as the village whore, just as someone who is searching for the right guy. You don’t understand that the proposal was when we still liked each other and we were going to go to Romania, not the US. So maybe later, like I wrote, he wanted to go to the US, but his family was in Romania, and that’s where we were going to go. Not the US. That wasn’t a thing until after he hit me and I left and talked to him again in the US, and I brought it up because I didn’t want to be hit anymore and he goes to jail for it in the US. 

I never hit C4. He even said he was lying and asked me to let the story be as he said, if I really don’t care. I care about lying though. Chapo is using me for money and kids and to not be alone, and I’m using him for an escape and safety. When I say guys don’t tell me how they feel, I’m saying they lie all of the time. 

The Trypt thing wasn’t just the visit, and it wasn’t just during his Blanc thing. We were going to meet up almost every two years for the last six years. It never worked out because he doesn’t say how he feels. He told me he didn’t want me to be with any other guys, like two years ago, and I asked him why, and he didn’t want to answer. I said I can’t just give up my dudes for nothing. I need to know why and he said I know why and then I said I want you to say it and he said never mind. 

The first time was about sex because we found out we like the same weird stuff.  He demanded to talk to me the first time I was on SC and he couldn’t stop telling me how pretty I was. He wouldn’t stop staring at me and when we finally did meet, it was so amazing that not even he could deny it. It just didn’t work out because he didn’t want to hurt me because he said he cheats on people and he thinks sex with other people while you’re married, is okay. He said he might be ready in the future, and that he likes me enough to let me have his kid one day. I wanted to wait, but I’m too crazy to be patient. So, technically, I know what he feels, but I can’t wait. I need to move like now and he’s not available. We were even going to live together if he had to move from his place. That’s why I have a hard time forgetting about him. It’s been a long time coming, but it’s not meant to be, even though it felt like it was. 

I like Chapo because he’s available now for me to move in with, he has a nice face, he has a nearly perfect thing, and he is willing to marry me. He also has a nice brain and is very similar to me. I want to say I love myself, but I actually hate myself a lot. That’s why I have been hesitant to be all in with Chapo. What if I don’t like him because he’s too similar? Then I realized that he’s a guy, so he’s already better than me. Chapo is my future husband. That’s why I’m always talking about him. 

Now, I’m not thirsty, nor am I desperate. I like both of them, but I can’t wait for Trypt. I’m not patient enough. I want to be married and I want to be with a guy. That will make me happy. I’m not desperate because if Chapo didn’t come along, I’d be waiting for Trypt. There’s no one better. Trypt told me Chapo really liked me and wanted to talk to me, so we talked and I wanted him to like me because I like his thing. Not everyone has a nice thing. I’ve only found three people with nice things. Chapo, Trypt, and this Irish guy I used to have fun with. I can’t marry someone I don’t like, so I won’t marry Chapo if it turns out I don’t like him, even though Trypt won’t be an option ever again. 

I’m not sure what is true anymore with Trypt. He was the best liar, if he was lying, or the perfect guy for me. I prefer to think he lied because I couldn’t live with knowing I missed out on my perfect guy. No matter how great it felt to hold him and smell him and do weird things with him, I can’t think of it as love or I’ll hate myself even more, so he just lied to me and wanted a warm body and faked the cuddling feelings and only cuddled with me after we argued because he didn’t want to be alone. He didn’t feel anything I felt and he was just lying.

In real life, I have proven my skills and that there is an unspoken game where you see who is stronger by seeing who can make the other person cry first. I won and that’s how I figured out that other people know about the game if they’re strong. My roommate cried because I found out what she cared about and used it to win. She told me I won and I was like, jumping up and down and telling my floor mates. We had to explain it to them because they didn’t know about the game because they’re weak. We never talked about it until I won. It was amazing. I knew I was good at it and I proved it. So you can’t tell me I can’t read people well. I have proof. 

I’m a challenge for Chapo because I’m in love with Trypt. He’s a challenge for me because he is in love with his wife. I will win because I love challenges and I get a nice  prize. 

You don’t understand me at all. This is my game. I play with people. Guys are my toys. Trout broke me, so now I’m emo and stuff and I actually need a guy to protect my feelings now. I need someone to give my love to. I just have so much now. Trypt is a miracle worker. He saved so many guys from being depressed because I ditched them. I was planning on going on forever, if Trypt didn’t work out, but now I just want someone I can cry in front of. O I, I understand what you were trying to say, it just doesn’t apply to me, so I assumed it came from an analysis of yourself, thus the projecting comment. 

SavantSaville said: 

Turncoat said: 

NotImportant said: 

I think you’re projecting.

You probably think that from not understanding it. 🤣

I am not talking about the people here when I talk about what people say and do. I’m not good at reading people online because I have only been on here and my email for online stuff and I haven’t figured out how to adapt my methods to the internet because I can’t tell when people are lying and can tell what they feel based on the words they wrote, but that doesn’t work here because they may not have a big enough vocabulary to be able to choose their words wisely, so it doesn’t work.

Who are you claiming on this website can't follow your vocabulary? That's a bit farfetched, this is a forum constituted almost entirely out of words, they're likely better with them than the people you're seeing IRL and the words you're using aren't 'advanced' or whatever. I've heard Med go on about the exact same thing before fumbling through weird medical words at young people. 

Seems almost like you had to follow it up with it being someone else's fault while trivializing your lack of ability after admitting to your own potential fault. Why do you figure others are better at reading each other online than you are? 

The words coming from angry minds tend to be more truthful, as this is likely the things they haven't been saying to your face when they thought they could get something out of you. This is why I prefer provocation with strangers; I learn more. 

Guys here tell me what they feel, but how do I know if they are lying or not.

Social Intelligence, something usually gained from talking to enough different people while allowing it to be about them instead of yourself. 

I don't find it that difficult personally. 🤷

They often tell me only food things and then when I get scared and leave, they switch and say bad things.

They tell you what you want to hear in order to get the things they want, much like you try to do to others but give yourself away over constantly. 

Being a user who's bad at the game begs your being used, but then you start lamenting over how you can't manipulate people into manipulating you while they're manipulating you and it just gets weird. 

How can I trust anyone if everyone does that? Even Chapo said he hates me twice and then has said he loves me too. I have no idea when to believe them.

The old hot-and-cold huh? It's shameful how well this works on people when they don't want anything permanent. 

Makes sense that'd work on you, you make it too easy girl. The way to lock someone in is to present yourself as a challenge, not as the local whore. 

Freaking Jim was going to marry me and take me to Romania, but then he claims he just wanted to go to the US. It’s impossible because I wanted to escape the US, which is why I went to him. I can see if he wanted that after I went back, but he was begging long before that, so his lies are stupid. 

He's impulsive, both were honestly what he meant at the time. 

You of all people I'd figure would excuse people for their inconsistency, lest they point out those problems in you. 

C4 lies too and Trypt was the best liar ever.

Man you're throwing C4 under the bus again, just because you assaulted him? 

Why are you going on about Tryp being 'worth it' and being 'the best liar ever'? You're inconsistent, or by your 'advanced vocabulary' you'd be calling yourself 'a liar' too. 

I my felt loved and cared for. It was magical. Like floating on a cloud. Now he says he never loved me when before he said the exact opposite.

You did this to yourself, it was idealist daydreams you self-inflicted on a person who agreed with you from the beginning that it wasn't going to become anything permanent. This was also during his Blanc drama, meaning he'd want something even less permanent from that association. 

It's hard to see you as a good people reader when your blunders are narrated for a wide audience to see. 

I like to believe people when they say things, so I’m torn and that’s why I seem regarded and like I’m unable to function at all in relationships or reflect in my failures. Am I to believe no one and everyone who says it is a liar?

It's not about if you do or don't like to believe people when they say things, it's about little tells and hints that give away their intentions. People can't help on some level but communicate what's on their minds, and if you are used to paying more attention to others rather than yourself you'll pick those things out. 

Again, try putting down the handheld mirror, let it be about other people rather than about yourself through other people. Your making the human experience into this sort of feast-or-famine mindset is unrealistic. 

Or does everyone love me and then lie about it when I ditch them because they’re hurt? I just don’t know what to think.

I obviously am drawn more towards the no one loves me side because I done even like myself, but in real life, I can tell what people feel and I can’t ignore that fact.

Of course you don't like yourself, you're in love with yourself. 

IRL you're more likely not corrected over your mistakes like you are on here, or you're so wrapped up in your inner narrative that not being able to quote them helps perpetuate it. 

I’d say the person who was the hardest to read in person was Trypt, but I could tell he got super jealous when I texted my friend about being president and at the same time, Old Timer texted me too.

Sounds like a cope to convince yourself you weren't nothing to him. 

Also when Chapo first told him how much he liked me and why, he was not very happy that I wanted to talk to Chapo, and he said I could possibly have his children one day, so there was something there, but apparently it wasn’t love, so what is love?

How can you sit there disappointed over not being 'used' by people while they're using you? 

Would it mean I loved him if I fixed myself and waited for him while I did it? Or, is it love because I can’t wait for him or I’d go insane because of how I feel? Is it love because I want to give Chapo all of the love I have because he is willing to accept it in the future?

It's thirst and desperation, don't dress it up as more than it is. 

On some level you're getting off to the sense of competition as well I bet, you've gone on about it in both 

 Lol bro she hijacked my thread about my godly body to talk about herself bc otherwise nobody gives her views lool 

 Nah, I don’t know how this happened.

NotImportant said: 

You don’t understand me at all. This is my game. I play with people. Guys are my toys. 

Why are they all using you then, instead of the other way around? 

Turncoat said: 

NotImportant said: 

You don’t understand me at all. This is my game. I play with people. Guys are my toys. 

Why are they all using you then, instead of the other way around? 

 Ah. lol the ole puppet is the master trick. that's what it is, I see what it is haha

NotImportant said: 

 

Turncoat said: 

I’d say the person who was the hardest to read in person was Trypt, but I could tell he got super jealous when I texted my friend about being president and at the same time, Old Timer texted me too.

Sounds like a cope to convince yourself you weren't nothing to him.

why do you say she was nothing to him after he met her and he still chats her up?

good a new clown this time is a catfish

perfect

AizenTheTitanic said: 

good a new clown this time is a catfish

perfect

 Cope