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QuietBeef said: 

I waffled about it for a while.  But I guess, ultimately, I'd describe myself as a woman with a higher-than-average ratio of masculine traits.

That said, I think the vast majority of qualities are gender-neutral.  Most of it is just expectation.

 which masculine traits are you talking about?

I thought the same of myself growing up but simply because my parents taught me that things like being intelligent, confident, strong etc were manly things

I never thought of myself as male nor wanted to be a man but I definitely didn't identify with what a woman was meant to be in my community (zero agency, ruled by emotions, baby making machines)

Now I consider my traits just idk part of me and I'm feminine so they are too

chai said: 

QuietBeef said: 

I waffled about it for a while.  But I guess, ultimately, I'd describe myself as a woman with a higher-than-average ratio of masculine traits.

That said, I think the vast majority of qualities are gender-neutral.  Most of it is just expectation.

 which masculine traits are you talking about?

I thought the same of myself growing up but simply because my parents taught me that things like being intelligent, confident, strong etc were manly things

I never thought of myself as male nor wanted to be a man but I definitely didn't identify with what a woman was meant to be in my community (zero agency, ruled by emotions, baby making machines)

Now I consider my traits just idk part of me and I'm feminine so they are too

I'm not referring to gender roles and expectations, so much as the relatively uniform psychological results of them and whatever biological factors may be at play.  Since, obviously, I was subjected to the same expectations as other women, much of the results are the same as well.  And the more I think about, the more I do identify with women.  But I suppose what stands out to me as particularly unfeminine is my directness.  I'm straightforward to the point of social brutishness, I find it harder to read nuance or to meet people on their own mental terms than most women do.

This is why men have typically been easier company for me.  I feel like I make mistakes with women that I don't fully understand, and my urge is to solve it by communicating my thoughts exactly as they are in my head.  I understand it when men fall back on that classic stereotypical complaint that women are "overly" complicated, that they don't just say what they mean, that the men feel like they can't just say what they mean back and have things resolve themselves.  The difference being that I blame us for that shortcoming, while they usually blame women for not being more like them.

Man. Although it would be fun to be trans and punch TERFs for not sucking my dick.

chai said: 

QuietBeef said: 

I waffled about it for a while.  But I guess, ultimately, I'd describe myself as a woman with a higher-than-average ratio of masculine traits.

That said, I think the vast majority of qualities are gender-neutral.  Most of it is just expectation.

 which masculine traits are you talking about?

I thought the same of myself growing up but simply because my parents taught me that things like being intelligent, confident, strong etc were manly things

I never thought of myself as male nor wanted to be a man but I definitely didn't identify with what a woman was meant to be in my community (zero agency, ruled by emotions, baby making machines)

Now I consider my traits just idk part of me and I'm feminine so they are too

 You can have lots of agency, be rational, get a job, and become a money making machine for me. :3

QuietBeef said: 

chai said: 

QuietBeef said: 

I waffled about it for a while.  But I guess, ultimately, I'd describe myself as a woman with a higher-than-average ratio of masculine traits.

That said, I think the vast majority of qualities are gender-neutral.  Most of it is just expectation.

 which masculine traits are you talking about?

I thought the same of myself growing up but simply because my parents taught me that things like being intelligent, confident, strong etc were manly things

I never thought of myself as male nor wanted to be a man but I definitely didn't identify with what a woman was meant to be in my community (zero agency, ruled by emotions, baby making machines)

Now I consider my traits just idk part of me and I'm feminine so they are too

I'm not referring to gender roles and expectations, so much as the relatively uniform psychological results of them and whatever biological factors may be at play.  Since, obviously, I was subjected to the same expectations as other women, much of the results are the same as well.  And the more I think about, the more I do identify with women.  But I suppose what stands out to me as particularly unfeminine is my directness.  I'm straightforward to the point of social brutishness, I find it harder to read nuance or to meet people on their own mental terms than most women do.

It sounds like you just have bad social skills. Social brutishness is not solely a male characteristic. Not reading nuance might be a sign you're on the autism spectrum.

This is why men have typically been easier company for me.  I feel like I make mistakes with women that I don't fully understand, and my urge is to solve it by communicating my thoughts exactly as they are in my head.  

 Are you capable of having male friendships without using your sexuality? You may feel more comfortable with men because you can use your sexuality as a form of power to manipulate them and refute rejection and intimacy through subconscious power play. Men don’t care about personality if they’re think they can get laid. Case in point, look at how CS has been passed around SC.   

Using your sexuality with women is not an option so you may feel more vulnerable to rejection with them since you have to rely on your personality/character -- your full person versus compartmentalized aspects of yourself.

I'm strictly dickly. 

males: Strong, athletic, independent, less emotionally reactive, will stick his dick inside of anything

females: weak, athletic, dependent, emotionally reactive, will preserve her pussy because females know if there a 5/10(this is not the same for men) or above they can pretty much get sex whenever they want to.

I don't think social brutishness is strictly a male characteristic. I guess if they was on a more pathological spectrum of arrogance then I guess this would be correct. 

bIeary said: 

QuietBeef said: 

chai said: 

QuietBeef said: 

I waffled about it for a while.  But I guess, ultimately, I'd describe myself as a woman with a higher-than-average ratio of masculine traits.

That said, I think the vast majority of qualities are gender-neutral.  Most of it is just expectation.

 which masculine traits are you talking about?

I thought the same of myself growing up but simply because my parents taught me that things like being intelligent, confident, strong etc were manly things

I never thought of myself as male nor wanted to be a man but I definitely didn't identify with what a woman was meant to be in my community (zero agency, ruled by emotions, baby making machines)

Now I consider my traits just idk part of me and I'm feminine so they are too

I'm not referring to gender roles and expectations, so much as the relatively uniform psychological results of them and whatever biological factors may be at play.  Since, obviously, I was subjected to the same expectations as other women, much of the results are the same as well.  And the more I think about, the more I do identify with women.  But I suppose what stands out to me as particularly unfeminine is my directness.  I'm straightforward to the point of social brutishness, I find it harder to read nuance or to meet people on their own mental terms than most women do.

It sounds like you just have bad social skills. Social brutishness is not solely a male characteristic. Not reading nuance might be a sign you're on the autism spectrum.

Would you accuse the more herculean models of masculinity of being on the spectrum? 

Matrix said: 

males: Strong, athletic, independent, less emotionally reactive, will stick his dick inside of anything

females: weak, athletic, dependent, emotionally reactive, will preserve her pussy because females know if there a 5/10(this is not the same for men) or above they can pretty much get sex whenever they want to.

I don't think social brutishness is strictly a male characteristic. I guess if they was on a more pathological spectrum of arrogance then I guess this would be correct. 

While not strictly male, it is symptomatic of higher T counts. 

Crazy autistic woman gender