Do you? Write why you do/don't. I believe that actions have consequences similar to the cause. This can be different from the immediate effect. For example, I believe the karmic effect of stealing is being poor when this seed ripens, even though the immediate consequence may be a gain of money. I also believe that intentions matter. For example, killing out of hatred may be the worst, accidental killing or killing out of less heavy emotions may be less bad etc. I also believe in rebirth and that karma carries over to different lifetimes. I believe karma can never be exhausted and that we do this shit since beginningless times.
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I suppose on a magnified scale (as in over many lifetimes) karma might be plausible, but I've seen too many bad things happen to innocent people to believe in it on an individual lifetime scale.
I believe the ripening of karmic seeds is subjected to causes and conditions, so there is no clear and logic order of ripening. For example, there must be at least someone present that hates you in order to get murdered etc., so if that's not present in that moment, the seed won't ripe even though it is stored in your mind.
I suppose on a magnified scale (as in over many lifetimes) karma might be plausible, but I've seen too many bad things happen to innocent people to believe in it on an individual lifetime scale.
I believe the ripening of karmic seeds is subjected to causes and conditions, so there is no clear and logic order of ripening. For example, there must be at least someone present that hates you in order to get murdered etc., so if that's not present in that moment, the seed won't ripe even though it is stored in your mind.
I don't follow. Wouldn't the necessity of someone hating you in order for you to be murdered be a clear and logical condition of ripening the karmic seed? Many people are murdered indiscriminately for a myriad of reasons other than hate.
Also - if there is no clear and logical order, how is it karma rather than random chaos? Or are they one and the same in your formulation?
Why do people like to larp about magical bullshit?
It makes them feel better not being in control.
i think of karma as not some magical bullshit but as a result of how you treat people. this has nothing to do with magic. so karma is really just a meme.
negative karma will come back to get you because people will fuck you over just like you fucked them over
nothing to do with magic, everything to do with human nature
My perspective on it's similar, but closer to other people on average being half-decent people readers.
If you spent your life being a thief for instance, comforts and habits fitting of a thief will surface, "The Karma of a Thief". Anyone with the eyes for those sets of traits will smell said thief's "karma" from miles away, and therefor be harder to steal from. Someone who is innocent in that area meanwhile may have less skill for stealing, but when socially analyzed they'd only give it away at most from a bad poker face.
Karma to me is just what you telegraph based on your comfort zones with behaviors. It's why someone who tries to be "a good and respectable person" can stink of the efforts of responsibility even to people who've never seen them do any good deeds personally.
Of course with this version of Karma, you can be shat on for being a good person too. Walk through an alley of scammers and cutthroats and they'll smell the karma of naivete, making it more about blending in and not standing out through one's comforts in the familiar.
what happened to stalin getting karma
Wealth and power can circumvent most social issues, and things like media and charisma can spin the appearance of one's karma. People'd still potentially get a read on them if they met them (if they aren't distracted by the above), but what could the average person even do about it? What would some poor farmer seeing Stalin as a terrible guy is even accomplish? It'd only mean something if his power and wealth were ripped from him, maybe.
Karma is a human force, and anything human can be worked around. It is a thing that can be both flexed and twisted, because it isn't mystical, but instead based around familiarity appearances within demographic labels through stuff like aesthetic, tendencies, and body language. This is why a Con Artist can fake his karma, although even that tends to leave signs people familiar with the tendencies may notice.
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I suppose on a magnified scale (as in over many lifetimes) karma might be plausible, but I've seen too many bad things happen to innocent people to believe in it on an individual lifetime scale.
I believe the ripening of karmic seeds is subjected to causes and conditions, so there is no clear and logic order of ripening. For example, there must be at least someone present that hates you in order to get murdered etc., so if that's not present in that moment, the seed won't ripe even though it is stored in your mind.
I don't follow. Wouldn't the necessity of someone hating you in order for you to be murdered be a clear and logical condition of ripening the karmic seed? Many people are murdered indiscriminately for a myriad of reasons other than hate.
Also - if there is no clear and logical order, how is it karma rather than random chaos? Or are they one and the same in your formulation?
For example, one has a karmic seed (the karma) to be killed. In order for this seed to ripen there must be certain circumstances present. For example it needs water and sun. So for the karmic effect to happen it does not just need the seed, also the right conditions for ripening must be present. The karmic seeds do not just ripen in some chronological order, but when the right conditions are present. It kind of seems chaotic, but it all makes sense. Just it is so complex and carries over many aeons that it is hard to fathom.
For example, I believe the karmic effect of stealing is being poor when this seed ripens, even though the immediate consequence may be a gain of money.
Tell that to the billionaires. : P
I also believe that intentions matter. For example, killing out of hatred may be the worst, accidental killing or killing out of less heavy emotions may be less bad etc.
How would someone killing out of hatred be worse than someone killing for amusement?
I also believe in rebirth and that karma carries over to different lifetimes. I believe karma can never be exhausted and that we do this shit since beginningless times.
Why do you believe in rebirth?
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