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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

 You're welcome.

Why did blanc down vote the posts?

 She down voted a bunch of posts across the forum randomly, blanc was just being blanc. 

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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

 You're welcome.

Why did blanc down vote the posts?

 She down voted a bunch of posts across the forum randomly, blanc was just being blanc. 

 Dude, what is the fucking point of upvotes and downvotes at this point?

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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

 You're welcome.

Why did blanc down vote the posts?

 She down voted a bunch of posts across the forum randomly, blanc was just being blanc. 

 Dude, what is the fucking point of upvotes and downvotes at this point?

 It makes the reader feel good to express agreement or disagreement withou having to add comments 

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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

 You're welcome.

Why did blanc down vote the posts?

 She down voted a bunch of posts across the forum randomly, blanc was just being blanc. 

 Dude, what is the fucking point of upvotes and downvotes at this point?

 It makes the reader feel good to express agreement or disagreement withou having to add comments 

 Ah, see cus there used to be a point system, so I didn't see the point anymore.

The labrat devours the scientist, if given the chance. As the rat is nothing but a tool to the scientist, the rat may still consume his dead flesh.
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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

 You're welcome.

Why did blanc down vote the posts?

 She down voted a bunch of posts across the forum randomly, blanc was just being blanc. 

 Dude, what is the fucking point of upvotes and downvotes at this point?

 It makes the reader feel good to express agreement or disagreement withou having to add comments 

 Ah, see cus there used to be a point system, so I didn't see the point anymore.

Remember last year when Good posted the overall points for everyone and the points to posts ratios. That was pretty interesting, and it would be neat to see how much that has changed now.

You may fascinate a woman by giving her a piece of cheese.
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So what is your opinion on pure math vs applied math, and how do you think it might play into determinism?

 Pure mathematics is the study of viable language constructions where viable is defined as logical consistency and applied   mathematics is the use of those constructions in external fields of study. 

In the logical case, in order for a logical construction to be consistent it seems necessary that results logically determine other results and that all results have a logical pathway to initial assumptions/axioms. 

More generally the law of causality has escaped the grasp of mathematicians as it relates to intersection between it and foundational axioms so I will not try to rectify this here as I have no satisfying answer. 

In the case of systems application, applied mathematics allows us to model memory (both past and future) of systems and this is generally what we generally mean when we speak determinism in the context of physics. 

 

 Okay, thank you.

 You're welcome.

Why did blanc down vote the posts?

 She down voted a bunch of posts across the forum randomly, blanc was just being blanc. 

 Dude, what is the fucking point of upvotes and downvotes at this point?

 It makes the reader feel good to express agreement or disagreement withou having to add comments 

 Ah, see cus there used to be a point system, so I didn't see the point anymore.

Remember last year when Good posted the overall points for everyone and the points to posts ratios. That was pretty interesting, and it would be neat to see how much that has changed now.

 That would be really interesting

The labrat devours the scientist, if given the chance. As the rat is nothing but a tool to the scientist, the rat may still consume his dead flesh.
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I've been gone for quite some time and have become a very skeptical person as it relates to objective claims.

By objective claim I mean claims people make with the belief that its evidence based and scientific. In the worse cases these claims are treated as if they are as logically sound as 1 + 1 = 2 or empirically grounded as F = ma.

A lot of users of this site post things with a grounding in psychology, social science, cognitive science, neuroscience, etc and treat what they say as fact. What is your process of verification? These fields are plagued by replication issues because effects are overstated, significance is overstated, and even when sound have sample sizes that make generalizing or particularizing inappropriate.

Generalizing and particularizing inappropriately seems to be the most common given its the side effect of anyone citing a source as support for their own stance.

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_Alice_ said: 

I've been gone for quite some time and have become a very skeptical person as it relates to objective claims.

By objective claim I mean claims people make with the belief that its evidence based and scientific. In the worse cases these claims are treated as if they are as logically sound as 1 + 1 = 2 or empirically grounded as F = ma.

A lot of users of this site post things with a grounding in psychology, social science, cognitive science, neuroscience, etc and treat what they say as fact. What is your process of verification? These fields are plagued by replication issues because effects are overstated, significance is overstated, and even when sound have sample sizes that make generalizing or particularizing inappropriate.

Generalizing and particularizing inappropriately seems to be the most common given its the side effect of anyone citing a source as support for their own stance.

 Yeah, If you can't repeat an experiment and get the same data, it's really not science. I think people have lost track of this. Or if there is not data, then it's a faith religion.

This example of the God gene turning people into zombies with a self propagating vaccine virus. "Look we got rid of their religious extremism."


 

 

 

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