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I've not encountered much because I think African Americans are a race apart. Over here our blacks are much more mellow and far less insecure. These slave descendants of yours have taken cope to a whole new level and I think they should embrace their heritage, or even their self-perceived lack of it. 

You think this constitutes as racism? When African Americans try to "equal" what they perceive as white superiority? I feel bad for them I really do. Must suck to care so much about race and then find out your ancestors have no accomplishments you can take credit for. 

Xadem said: 

I've not encountered much because I think African Americans are a race apart. Over here our blacks are much more mellow and far less insecure. These slave descendants of yours have taken cope to a whole new level and I think they should embrace their heritage, or even their self-perceived lack of it. 

You think this constitutes as racism? When African Americans try to "equal" what they perceive as white superiority? I feel bad for them I really do. Must suck to care so much about race and then find out your ancestors have no accomplishments you can take credit for. 

 Yes, it does seem unique to American Blacks. 

 I don't think it has to be racist but it often is. 

The Hebrew Israelites believe that Whites are the embodiment of evil and that Black Jesus will come back and commit genocide  against all people who are not the true children of Israel. Here is the list of the 12 tribes in it blacks are put first as the Children of Judah: 

Moors and the Nation of Islam (Not related to actual Islam in reality, similar situation as Mormonism and Christianity) they believe in Yakub who was a scientist who made White people in a lab 6600 years ago making Whites lesser than blacks and in fact the original slave race. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakub_(Nation_of_Islam)

And the followers of Kemit think that Melenin makes them superior as they can gain cosmic power through it. 

AliceInWonderland said: 

 

 

But... what is the oldestbookintheworld? 

Turncoat said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

 

 

But... what is the oldestbookintheworld? 

lol I don't think he wants to say as it wouldn't support his overall narrative. 

If it isn't Egyptian it isn't real. 

Some have melenin, while others lack it.

I know a white guy who's into similar stuff and he firmly believes whiteness is a curse.

There is a lot of content here that I would have to spend time to digest, which I may or may not do. I do have some cursory thoughts.

I was in the middle of watching Joe Rogan interviewing Kanye West, and I think Kanye actually had some pretty interesting takes on black culture in America. He says for instance that Black History Month is actually a negative thing, because it focuses on the mistreatment of blacks in the past. It puts negative energy into the psyche when you see your race getting hosed down, etc. He went on to say that whenever you start prefacing people with the term "black," that in itself is carrying so many connotations. And I think he's right; racial designations don't seem to be used much for many other races. Overall, he's more focused on elevation than lamentation.

I do think black society and its status is something that blacks need to manage internally. And I don't mean via BLM, that shit is for the birds. But I am seeing some people like Ice Cube actually working with academics, putting forward plans and talking to politicians. He even got an assurance plan from Republicans for public funding (Democrats declined to speak). Things are not so fucked or sideways for them that nothing can be done, but I think they are the ones who need to take the initiative.

Tryptamine said: 

There is a lot of content here that I would have to spend time to digest, which I may or may not do.

This sounds like you won't, but I recommend at least Shakka Ahmose. 

He says for instance that Black History Month is actually a negative thing, because it focuses on the mistreatment of blacks in the past.

You'd never heard that idea before? This has been floating around since long before BLM was a thing. 

It puts negative energy into the psyche when you see your race getting hosed down, etc.

More importantly it notes a divide between people at all beyond the aesthetic. Known (and assumed) history at this point in the timeline's curve has become one of the biggest limiters when it comes to progress. 

I do think black society and its status is something that blacks need to manage internally.

They're trying, and instead they're splitting into subcultural demographics like every other race is doing right now. 

And I don't mean via BLM, that shit is for the birds.

BLM is extremely important at this point of the US's timeline, as it forces infighting between them over if they are or are not victims in modern day society. As they split further and begin fighting amongst eachother, the room for other non-black demographics to join in the debate will increase as the racial issues themselves fade and bleed into pure classism politics. 

But I am seeing some people like Ice Cube actually working with academics, putting forward plans and talking to politicians. He even got an assurance plan from Republicans for public funding (Democrats declined to speak).

I mostly see it being used as a plot device meant to split the black community's votes to the point of screwing over their own lower class. 

Things are not so fucked or sideways for them that nothing can be done, but I think they are the ones who need to take the initiative.

It's easy for us privileged white folk to say that, isn't it? 

Turncoat said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

 

 

But... what is the oldestbookintheworld? 

 This video might be the longest joke I ever sat through. lol

Tryptamine said: 

There is a lot of content here that I would have to spend time to digest, which I may or may not do. I do have some cursory thoughts.

I was in the middle of watching Joe Rogan interviewing Kanye West, and I think Kanye actually had some pretty interesting takes on black culture in America. He says for instance that Black History Month is actually a negative thing, because it focuses on the mistreatment of blacks in the past. It puts negative energy into the psyche when you see your race getting hosed down, etc. He went on to say that whenever you start prefacing people with the term "black," that in itself is carrying so many connotations. And I think he's right; racial designations don't seem to be used much for many other races. Overall, he's more focused on elevation than lamentation.7

 The way I was always taught Black History Month in school was focused on the accomplishments, not the mistreatment.  And granted, plenty of that goes hand in hand, one often can't be taught without some element of the other, but all history is dark, the attitude it instills is more a matter of presentation.  I mean, should we just stick our head in the sand and pretend bad shit never happened?  History as a subject is there to be learned from, not to make us feel all warm and fuzzy wuzzy.

This also ties into your assertion that black people in the US simply need to "take the initiative themselves".  That sentiment is ignoring the myriad of problems that led to this socioeconomic stalemate for them, whether you think those problems still exist in their original form or not.  It's like when people are opposed to psychiatric diagnosis, because they believe that labeling people in that way will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.  While that could be true in some respects, it's completely ignoring the big picture issue and essentially telling them to just get over it.  The same attitude people had before the modern wave of psychological study and awareness, and look how well it worked back then.  Nowadays people say we're passed all that and the black community needs to dig itself out of this hole, but that's what people have been saying, that's the sort of commentary taken en masse in news and literature from an era of history that I think no one here would would argue was not rife with systemic racial oppression, and look how far that attitide has gotten us.  Same old tired arguments about how doing nothing is the answer.  Pretending everything is fine is the answer.  At what point does that narrative end?  This is a massive and deeply complicated issue with a labyrinth of problematic history and policy surrounding it, sorry Kanye, but good vibes aren't gonna cut it.