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Are we going gentle into that good night?


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I believe humanity has reached what Neitzsche warned us about. The mass numbing of our competitive, individualistic spirit.

At the time he said alcohol and christianity would do it, but perhaps to his surprise the most numbed out of them all, gen z, are largely atheistic. 

So what's happened? Why has this worldwide numbing of our souls shifted from a religious foundation to something more political or perhaps, philosophical?

Ironically, the philosophical underpinnings of socialism bears some resemblance to christianity. Self sacrifice for the good of the masses. The denial of human drives deemed "selfish". Add to that the irony that most socialist nations eventually ban religion.

Additionally this socialist idealism has fused with subjectivist postmodern philosophy and there has been an effort to portray christianity as bigoted, restrictive, and archaic.... by the same people promoting this postmodernist socialist philosophy that's just as bad.

This has resulted in a mass exodus from one thing that may numb the soul to something even worse. If Neitzsche thought christianity and alcohol was bad, he'd be shocked by today's issues.

Also as predicted, this abolition of religion has left a moral gap that the gen z atheist generation has found.... difficulties in filling, to say the least. 

It seems like many of them have a lack of direction or sense of self. They're just copies of everybody else. They simply don't care about much. There isn't much ambition or intellectual curiousity going on, just numbness.

I think people are self aware of this too, as they regularly degrade themselves albeit "humorously" referring to oneself as "trash" or "worthless". It's almost like a subconscious inside joke between those whose souls are numb, subtly mocking their affliction despite total ignorance of the source.

I think it's reached critical mass and even if you aren't like that, you're likely to be effected by living in a world rife with this mode of existence; a drab, complacent, and ignorant one. You may feel surrounded by "NPCs", as some put it.

If mankind doesn't break out of this fugue state, they're going to take it to the grave as authoritarianism wipes out the last remnants of our individual spirit or the earth opens up and sucks us in, appalled by its own impotent inhabitants. 

We have gone gentle into that good night, and I'm seeing little signs we're changing course

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Ok millennial, how about we stop stereotyping all of a generation?

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I believe humanity has reached what Neitzsche warned us about. The mass numbing of our competitive, individualistic spirit.

At the time he said alcohol and christianity would do it, but perhaps to his surprise the most numbed out of them all, gen z, are largely atheistic. 

We failed to create a new morality and we were never meant to, civilizations can't create anything but decaying mechanisms. 

Furthermore, it's hard for me to say we were ever properly 'Christian' as the Magians are (orthodox). We are seemingly a pseudomorphosis ( magian, greco-roman, Northerwestern Pagan culture forms and archi. 

So what's happened? Why has this worldwide numbing of our souls shifted from a religious foundation to something more political or perhaps, philosophical?

Ironically, the philosophical underpinnings of socialism bears some resemblance to christianity. Self sacrifice for the good of the masses. The denial of human drives deemed "selfish". Add to that the irony that most socialist nations eventually ban religion.

Christianity, Buddhism, Stoicism, confucianism/Laozism, and Socialism are all metaphysically equivalent. 

They are decay Mechanism that not only destroy culture forms but greatly inhibit are capacity to create new ones, merely symbols that we have transitioned from a culture to a civilization. 

Additionally this socialist idealism has fused with subjectivist postmodern philosophy and there has been an effort to portray christianity as bigoted, restrictive, and archaic.... by the same people promoting this postmodernist socialist philosophy that's just as bad.

This has resulted in a mass exodus from one thing that may numb the soul to something even worse. If Neitzsche thought christianity and alcohol was bad, he'd be shocked by today's issues.

Nietzsche thought Christians were bad but admired Christ and viewed him an actual singularity of symbolic truth. 

Very important to understand this given his praise of Faustian archi that are symbolically Christian. 

Also as predicted, this abolition of religion has left a moral gap that the gen z atheist generation has found.... difficulties in filling, to say the least. 

It seems like many of them have a lack of direction or sense of self. They're just copies of everybody else. They simply don't care about much. There isn't much ambition or intellectual curiousity going on, just numbness.

I think people are self aware of this too, as they regularly degrade themselves albeit "humorously" referring to oneself as "trash" or "worthless". It's almost like a subconscious inside joke between those whose souls are numb, subtly mocking their affliction despite total ignorance of the source.

I think it's reached critical mass and even if you aren't like that, you're likely to be effected by living in a world rife with this mode of existence; a drab, complacent, and ignorant one. You may feel surrounded by "NPCs", as some put it.

If mankind doesn't break out of this fugue state, they're going to take it to the grave as authoritarianism wipes out the last remnants of our individual spirit or the earth opens up and sucks us in, appalled by its own impotent inhabitants. 

We have gone gentle into that good night, and I'm seeing little signs we're changing course

 We were always destined to die as all death is certain. 

 Regardless, multiple pseudomorphosis's have already taken place between us and Russia, whom yet to go through a cultureal/civilizaitonal   morphology, and the world at large. 

  

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Gen Z is the worst for this, it's very evident and in your face. I don't mean all of them but a large portion of them are like this, that's just a fact. I believe this effects everybody but of course the generation born now would bear the brunt of today's issues, including mental health paradigms.

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AliceInWonderland said:
We failed to create a new morality and we were never meant to

While I agree that we're doomed to repeat our basic human needs in different forms of religion based on cultural strife's of that time period, I'd also argue that humans are likely evolving slowly into a different life form with different base needs. 

Much like how our nails have weakened and our fangs are receding, I'm sure other areas have changed as cultural and gregarious needs hand-in-hand overtake survival ones when it comes to Darwinian priorities. As such, I'd imagine religious priorities changing overtime, and potentially with it base morality, as people evolve in potentially newer directions over centuries correlationally. 

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last edit on 10/21/2020 6:24:29 PM
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Gen Z is the worst for this, it's very evident and in your face. I don't mean all of them but a large portion of them are like this, that's just a fact. I believe this effects everybody but of course the generation born now would bear the brunt of today's issues, including mental health paradigms.

Voices from the great beyond are calling to me... "born in the wrong generation" they say.. I see an image... a mirror.. with a snot nosed brat in the reflection? Yes.. now I see... a young man but his eyes are covered.. his fedora is pulled over his eyes... to hide.... tears? But why? What does it mean? The vision fades... I am very tired.. I rest now. 

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AliceInWonderland said:
We failed to create a new morality and we were never meant to

While I agree that we're doomed to repeat our basic human needs in different forms of religion based on cultural strife's of that time period, I'd also argue that humans are likely evolving slowly into a different life form with different base needs. 

Much like how our nails have weakened and our fangs are receding, I'm sure other areas have changed as cultural and gregarious needs hand-in-hand overtake survival ones when it comes to Darwinian priorities. As such, I'd imagine religious priorities changing overtime, and potentially with it base morality, as people evolve in potentially newer directions over centuries correlationally. 

I agree completely, and given developments in both Human-computer interfacing and genetics, who knows perhaps we'll be speeding up our evolution in the very near future. 

From this train of thought one is forced to wonder about the necessity of morality as it may be a purely a human concept. 

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AliceInWonderland said:
We failed to create a new morality and we were never meant to

While I agree that we're doomed to repeat our basic human needs in different forms of religion based on cultural strife's of that time period, I'd also argue that humans are likely evolving slowly into a different life form with different base needs. 

Much like how our nails have weakened and our fangs are receding, I'm sure other areas have changed as cultural and gregarious needs hand-in-hand overtake survival ones when it comes to Darwinian priorities. As such, I'd imagine religious priorities changing overtime, and potentially with it base morality, as people evolve in potentially newer directions over centuries correlationally. 

I agree completely, and given developments in both Human-computer interfacing and genetics, who knows perhaps we'll be speeding up our evolution in the very near future. 

From this train of thought one is forced to wonder about the necessity of morality as it may be a purely a human concept. 

I'm more curious as to how Autism spectrum will integrate into future society. 

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The cool thing about technology is that ordinary nincompoops such as myself get elevated by the innovators and geniuses of society. 

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