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 what the actual fuck

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 what the actual fuck

There's entire music movements of stuff like this, if not other forms of un-music. 

Around two years ago I got into these for the novelty and expression of it (and attended a live show for some older one who's name escapes me right now...). It's a weird tunnel to take, but it's fun for the passion of it. 

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FOTS said: 

 what the actual fuck

There's entire music movements of stuff like this, if not other forms of un-music. 

Around two years ago I got into these for the novelty and expression of it (and attended a live show for some older one who's name escapes me right now...). It's a weird tunnel to take, but it's fun for the passion of it. 

The 70s were a pretty mystical point of time for music. There was a subset of people who were at the crossroads of cultural divide, with some who were were anti-establishment, but also anti-punk. The message was very different in the case of the first industrial/noise musicians. Their interest was to show the grotesqueness of culture and humanity, or even absurdity. And they managed to do so in ways that have created genres that run to this day. Though that was certainly not what many of them wanted.

Nowadays, "noise music" seems like a meaningless idea. It was forged in the 70s, ran it's course in the 80s. There's barely been anything novel since that period, spare a few Japanese musicians who run the same vein. And I don't mean Merzbow and co. that are an imitation of Whitehouse.

What really makes me happy is seeing modern musicians taking the principles of the form and applying it in new ways. Zeitkratzer especially has been doing some amazing things.

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FOTS said: 

 what the actual fuck

There's entire music movements of stuff like this, if not other forms of un-music. 

Around two years ago I got into these for the novelty and expression of it (and attended a live show for some older one who's name escapes me right now...). It's a weird tunnel to take, but it's fun for the passion of it. 

The 70s were a pretty mystical point of time for music. There was a subset of people who were at the crossroads of cultural divide, with some who were were anti-establishment, but also anti-punk. The message was very different in the case of the first industrial/noise musicians. Their interest was to show the grotesqueness of culture and humanity, or even absurdity. And they managed to do so in ways that have created genres that run to this day. Though that was certainly not what many of them wanted.

Nowadays, "noise music" seems like a meaningless idea.

It still exists in it's own forms, but it seems to be being taken more... purely? More relaxed? I'm not sure what to call the change but it's very different from the more offbeat path it was before computers could allow anyone to go more experimentally. 

It's gone away from Punk themes and now instead seems more like a sound engineering game. There's tracks of people just ruffling papers with a magnified mic aimed towards it for example, there's Speedcore which is... barely music, and a lot of the odd more Zappa/Primus effects are a bit more normalized now. 

What really makes me happy is seeing modern musicians taking the principles of the form and applying it in new ways. Zeitkratzer especially has been doing some amazing things.

I don't know the name, but I'll look into it now. 

Speaking of names, the band I'd seen was "The Residents". The members are left unknown (and some people accuse Les Claypool of being a part of it instead of merely inspired by it, a semi-believable theory). It has more method and psychedelia than Suckdog though. 



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Zeitkratzer especially has been doing some amazing things.



It's like the wailing of some kind of otherworldly beast, this is crazy. It's ambient, yet in your face. 

For some reason it reminds me a little of Lynch's work: 



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It still exists in it's own forms, but it seems to be being taken more... purely? More relaxed? I'm not sure what to call the change but it's very different from the more offbeat path it was before computers could allow anyone to go more experimentally. 

It's gone away from Punk themes and now instead seems more like a sound engineering game. There's tracks of people just ruffling papers with a magnified mic aimed towards it for example, there's Speedcore which is... barely music, and a lot of the odd more Zappa/Primus effects are a bit more normalized now. 

Yeah, there's even some pretty satisfying stuff on Soundcloud I hear from no-names. But they identify as "experimental," etc. Noise musicians nowadays are mostly garbage renditions of what Whitehouse was doing with "power electronics." So I'm talking musicians like Prurient, who have a few good hits like "Cave Depression," but are generally trying to make harsh sounds for the sake of it...and that gets dull/repetitive. What you posted is at least original, it actually made me laugh.

Zeitkratzer really is something else, it's like 12 classically trained musicians that work in rotations (members leave, members join). Their live shows are a spectacle too.

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