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That Siege topic is dead so I'm starting a new one.

I grew up an SJW brought up by the lies of my primary secondary and high school, until I was broken free by the Internet by the likes of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro and led a life of success in my career and love life, embracing my natural desires, dominateering women and leading men as high-functioning alpha male with the body of greek gods. It took me so long to realize that everything I was fed by the leftist SJW media is a lie, from every race being the same to all genders being equal. It is my deepest desire to reconstruct our traditional view of gender roles and race, allowing all to experience equality of opportunities but not equality of outcomes.

Lies leftist SJW media brainwashes you with:

  • There are no biological differences between men and women save for vagina vs penis and that there are observable differences is a testament to vile propaganda and forced gender roles by means of social construction.
  • Every race is equal in every way except for pigmentation of skin and that  it is racist to acknowledge that blacks classify as retards by every IQ because those results derive from flawed sciences that should be banned from discussions.
  • It does not make you any less desirable to be dominant as a woman and submissive as a man, and we should imbue every human being with these reversed gender traits to break the vile social constructs that result in inequality.
  • Sex is a social construct that has nothing to do with biology.
  • Everyone is appreciated based on effort but not outcomes because surely the corporate world will reward your "efforts" even if you are a retard and corporate world touts these same lines in hopes of winning points with their employees, just watch their actions and who gets promoted and the story suddenly changes.
  • White men should not lead companies because their achievements are a testament to a patriarchical white male society led by pigs while black leaders are celebrated even if they are complete fuck ups
  • It is fine for women to be leaders.
  • Some SJWs are even offended by the fact that men are on average taller than women.

Social constructs are a real thing, but ignoring biology is madnesss. No society has ever had women lead them save for maybe some egyptians, they do not have the genetic make-up to compete in a society led by men that's just how it is and no amount of crying about it will change anything. There are a small minority of women capable of leading and the fact that the rest are not given opportunities is a testament to their lack of leadership and know-how because they were really meant to nurse children. Anyone who says men and women are just as likely to make good parents is an idiot, women are superior parents because their emotional brains change when their kid is shot out of the birth canal in such a way that they become biological parents while the man still wants to just make money and fuck other women.

Men desire submissive women and women desire dominant men. The SJW media touts a lie to us all that we should make our men submissive and women dominant. We should give this freedom to every person and accept them as they are instead of trying to force a lie onto them. These lies breed bitterness in both genders as we create a society where dominant women are trying to find men who are dominant enough to "handle" them while failing to realize that those dominant men don't want cavewomen but elegant yet submissive, petite french girls with cute accents who want to learn English from dominant supermen. The submissive man seeks love and desires a submissive enough a woman to feel like a man, giving everything to the woman in opes of getting to their panties but ultimately getting rejected and finally realizing that Michael Cera doesn't get pussy in real life, growing bitter at all women for rejecting them for who they think they are. These submissive petite french women get to choose anyone they like, being the ultimate girls next door that they are, so why would they choose an unconfident and confused boys as opposed to self-assured and dominant men riding elegant horses, except if they are some freaks of nature. These michael cera movies are a testament to the fake dream that the leftist media wants to sell us and most of us realize the lies when it's already too late. The leftist dream of producing submissive men and dominant women races against biology and is a Darwinian test to select those that realize it's a lie and gain a hue advantage over everyone else in the race to spread genes as the SJW men and women are left crying and confused.

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SJWs hate each other sexually, how paradoxical is that. The leftist effort is doomed to fail over the years as everyone genuinely subscribing to the belief system is left childless or in a bitter and failed marriage.

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There are only two genders, and then there's gender identity.

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There are only two genders, and then there's gender identity.

I have no problems with "gender identity" except that the name should be"identity" or "personality" not "gender identity" for the same reason that there is no "age identity" or "species identity" that is officially recognized in the law. We can call them type-1, type-2, type-3 personalities.

 

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Alright, some proper bait for a proper topic: 

Lies leftist SJW media brainwashes you with: 
There are no biological differences between men and women save for vagina vs penis and that there are observable differences is a testament to vile propaganda and forced gender roles by means of social construction.
I tend to focus more on Estrogen vs Testosterone symptoms and tendencies more than the parts they use for fucking, but then again I'm a bit more sapiosexual towards feminine themes when it comes to attraction. 

Every race is equal in every way except for pigmentation of skin and that it is racist to acknowledge that blacks classify as retards by every IQ because those results derive from flawed sciences that should be banned from discussions.
Give any race enough generations of child rearing time in a different environment and you'll see the traits they've deemed gregarious change. The temperature of where you are can affect how a culture behaves (cold increases solitary paranoia, warmth pushes people's behaviors to higher extremes, and temperate weather makes for sedentary lifestyles), which in turn affects their sociology and therefor their environment.

On top of that, what state of poverty they are in can affect if they find a mindless can-do attitude or a high IQ overthinker to be the standard of beauty. Wealth and one's idea of a "Golden Age" tends to embrace Estrogenic values while poverty and wartimes tends to embrace Testosterone instead. Much of it falls into the religious notion of Left vs Right handed thinking

It does not make you any less desirable to be dominant as a woman and submissive as a man, and we should imbue every human being with these reversed gender traits to break the vile social constructs that result in inequality.
I'd argue that The Left embraces the idea of breaking gender boundaries instead of trivializing it. A woman acting dominant over a male in LGBTQ circles is a self-validating sign of the times as opposed to the demonizing that such ideas once faced even just a few decades ago. It's seen as progressive, as escaping the binds of Patriarchal society, even as the male who's giving control over to the female. 

Much like many elements of 'Clown World' evolution, it's seen as more novel and exciting than heteronormative values, but too much novelty can scare the traditionalists. 

Sex is a social construct that has nothing to do with biology.
Estrogen vs Testosterone bruh.

Even if you ignore the write ups on it we can outright witness the differences by watching people pump the stuff into their own bodies. 

Everyone is appreciated based on effort but not outcomes because surely the corporate world will reward your "efforts" even if you are a retard and corporate world touts these same lines in hopes of winning points with their employees, just watch their actions and who gets promoted and the story suddenly changes.
I mean... glass ceiling? 

Quotas are the sort of thing that only seems shitty from the start. It's the potential for people of other demographics to normalize successful jobs however that will lead to more like them of their own merits in the future. It's a sacrifice now for the sake of future productivity. 

Basically, if you want them to advance from their stations socio-demographically, then they need to already be a part of it for it to trickle down. If you keep going with who is 'succeeding' right now, it will just continue to be that way in a wasteful fashion through sheer peer modeling. 

White men should not lead companies because their achievements are a testament to a patriarchical white male society led by pigs while black leaders are celebrated even if they are complete fuck ups
Privilege is a matter of ingrained history after enough generations sociologically, and balancing out means waiting for 'old money' to diversify. 

If a race comes up from an integrated background of wealth that pushes progress out of their children to the point of suffering towards educational success, their adulthood will reflect different values and gregarious views than an otherwise stressful environment that demands that you Numb yourself to function in the day-to-day. 

It is fine for women to be leaders.
Testosterone has a higher proclivity to act before asking questions while Estrogen is more prone to nitpicking oversensitivity. Guess which one's more prone to attempts in leadership, and guess which one falls into Dunning-Kruger
 
Some SJWs are even offended by the fact that men are on average taller than women.
We just need to give children injections and pills until they become the designer person they always wanted. 

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last edit on 8/2/2020 12:55:57 PM
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There are only two genders, and then there's gender identity.

I have no problems with "gender identity" except that the name should be"identity" or "personality" not "gender identity" for the same reason that there is no "age identity" or "species identity" that is officially recognized in the law. We can call them type-1, type-2, type-3 personalities.

There is still racial identity: 



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Gender: XY and XX chromosomes it's not just testosterone vs estrogen or penis vs vagina. There's child birth, different brains, hormones, etc. Men can't give birth, similarly to how women can't lead. There are a few examples of XXY and XYY chromosomes but they're abnormalities. Gender is biologically defined and no amount of hormone therapy is going to make a man able to give birth to a kid, a woman able to drive a car, or a black person able to do math as efficiently as a white person.

No amount of SJW inbreeding is going to change millions of years of evolution, the failed SJW shit is going to go on for maybe 20 years more before people realize its bullshit, not nearly long enough for men to start carrying children in their tummies or for black people to raise their IQ score like you suggest.

The best the different races can do is breed with the other races to average out their shitty IQ through diluting their genes. There's no reason to do this though since we can establish better results by evolving the races that are already ahead of the curve and simply reserve the low-class jobs for black people. Someone gotta do it and it would be a waste to use white people to do it.

Intelligence and masculinity has always been the standard that guided societys which is how we genocided every other race in close proximity that failed to measure up.

Your idea is fantasy and in no society in history have we ever embraced "women" as a gender if that's what you mean by "estrogenic values" otherwise give me a source to prove your point. We've always embraced masculine traits as they lead to the best results. Otherwise societys up to now would have been led by women but they're not, its another SJW lie, like that recent bitching about how wikipedia doesn't have enouh women entries as if there needs to be 50/50 gender representation on wikipedia lols.

 

My main problem with SJW brainwashing is really that they proclaim that submissive men and dominant women is the norm when it really races against everything we know to be true. I do not care about women being "given permission" to be dominant or vice versa but that the leftist propaganda machine embraces those values and lauds them as the norm or as desirable traits, when in fact all our biology tells us to disdain those values and find them unattractive. The problem comes in when otherwise normal men and women realize that they've been duped too late as they struggle to fit in to a society that finds them unattractive and incompetent for following the very same values that society lauds as a cover-front while secretly hating every part of it thanks to their biological make-up which is not going to change anytime soon. Too much "novelty" in this case is taking things way too far and selling a made up lie that doesn't puts 99% of the population at a disadvantage and labeling everyone who doesn't follow the narrative an idiot racist, nothing pretty about that.

Your view on "old currency" and "priviledge" falls flat because I am for equality of outcome. If our society requires high IQ individuals with the ability to innovate, as it always does, then white people will thrive. Asians and Jews do pretty good too, how did they become wealthy even though they were not afforded any priviledges? Explain that. If it requires sun-resistant people with better athletic ability but no intellect, then blacks will thrive. Forcing blacks to thrive through quotas does nothing to help the problem, it's a sub-optimal solution. The optimal solution is equality of outcome which your example perfectly illustrates but leftist SJW propaganda promotes a sub-optimal solution based on positive discrimination, allowing stupid people to thrive just because "diversity". Let evolution and the necessities of life sort themselves out, we do not need someone to rig the machine to work at a sub-optimal pace and no it doesn't mean that the society is better apt to deal with future issues when other qualities become relatively more important unless we kill off all black people which I am not supporting. Give me one source that provides evidence of a time when intelligence and innovation didn't act as one of the main driving forces in a society.

I lol'ed at your leadership example. Give me one source of a society in history where women dominated the leadership positions. You might find one or at most two, wonder why.

 

Men are attracted to submissive women, women are attracted to dominant men. Men are leaders, women are nurturers. That's how society has always worked and will always work because it yields the optimal solutions as demonstrated by our long history.

 

Left hand vs right hand path said:
In Western esotericism the Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path are the dichotomy between two opposing approaches to magic. This terminology is used in various groups involved in the occult and ceremonial magic.

How is this even in the ball-park of addressing perceived gender identities?

 

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StillPork said:
Left hand vs right hand path said: 
In Western esotericism the Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path are the dichotomy between two opposing approaches to magic. This terminology is used in various groups involved in the occult and ceremonial magic.

How is this even in the ball-park of addressing perceived gender identities?

That's all you got out of it? 

Is that the level of research you put into most things before coming to a conclusion? 

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StillPork said:
Left hand vs right hand path said: 
In Western esotericism the Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path are the dichotomy between two opposing approaches to magic. This terminology is used in various groups involved in the occult and ceremonial magic.

How is this even in the ball-park of addressing perceived gender identities?

That's all you got out of it? 

Is that the level of research you put into most things before coming to a conclusion? 

Lmfao I just trashed your every argument and your only comeback is a response I could spit out in response to any random post irrespective of the context.

Here's a demonstration:

 

Turncoat said:
Privilege is a matter of ingrained history after enough generations sociologically, and balancing out means waiting for 'old money' to diversify.

If a race comes up from an integrated background of wealth that pushes progress out of their children to the point of suffering towards educational success, their adulthood will reflect different values and gregarious views than an otherwise stressful environment that demands that you Numb yourself to function in the day-to-day.

Is that the level of research you put into most things before coming to a conclusion?

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