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Just don't do that thing where you become so hungry that you feel too sick to eat. 

Eating for me is mostly mindless sustenance to get vague sensations to go away, but there is an artful appreciation for starving yourself just long enough to make a meal taste better. Trying many different kinds of foods shows Food to be another medium of Art, one that plays on the senses differently. I see it like a complicated form of painting or sculpture for your tongue instead of your eyes, and by the limits of the medium it can only last so long yet say so much. 

It's a journey of exploration for both the body and mind, whether that's you exploring food others have made or learning how to cook yourself. A lot of my best memories have a flavor attached to it, like my first Heart Attack burger or my first time trying squid in Asia, and that helps strengthen the tandem association. 

Flavor is about capturing a moment, and hunger awakens the sensitivity for the tools. 

It makes everything taste better. 

Turncoat said: 

Just don't do that thing where you become so hungry that you feel too sick to eat. 

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Eating for me is mostly mindless sustenance to get vague sensations to go away, but there is an artful appreciation for starving yourself just long enough to make a meal taste better. Trying many different kinds of foods shows Food to be another medium of Art, one that plays on the senses differently. I see it like a complicated form of painting or sculpture for your tongue instead of your eyes, and by the limits of the medium it can only last so long yet say so much. 

It's a journey of exploration for both the body and mind, whether that's you exploring food others have made or learning how to cook yourself. A lot of my best memories have a flavor attached to it, like my first Heart Attack burger or my first time trying squid in Asia, and that helps strengthen the tandem association. 

Flavor is about capturing a moment, and hunger awakens the sensitivity for the tools. 

Nausea from hunger is a weird contradiction. Reminds me of those starving African kids with swollen bellies.  

I'm not sure if being very hungry would make you appreciate the art of food more. Hunger puts you in a somewhat desperate position. Is that really the ideal state of mind to appreciate something refined? Even if the senses were to be heightened, as hunger does, you'd have to practice immense self control to then have a single piece of cheddar or whatever and focus on appreciating it, as opposed to gorging on the entire pack. 

If you're not hungry, you're free of the craving sensation, which in turn allows you to taste the food free from the bias that being hungry brings. You can just taste it for what it is without wanting to feel satiated. Hunger comes with a whole lot more than an appetite and a craving. 

Xadem said: 

I'm not sure if being very hungry would make you appreciate the art of food more.

Both hunger and thirst (and other appetites like sex) work in that it's when you want it most that all the flavors receptors are like... ready for it, more easily excited. 

Eating the same dish as what you just ate will lack the novelty and tongue-shock that was otherwise there for the first one. This sort of idea is what has led to things like palate cleansing, the idea of clearing your mouth of the flavor that's in there with something complimentary, and is why people are willing to pay exorbitant amounts for the tiniest of portions. Flavor is an art, and much like when your nose smells something for too long it can become easier to ignore it. 

It's also why the notion of "spoiling your appetite" came from. If you have snacks before the meal is ready, it's not just a problem over how you might not finish it but also how it won't taste as suspensefully built up, it'll become needless. When what you desire is in abundance, it can become easier to become affluent with it. 

Hunger puts you in a somewhat desperate position. Is that really the ideal state of mind to appreciate something refined?

To clarify, I don't mean like... starving.

Hunger can even awaken the olfactory functions in ways that can allow you to enjoy a meal differently. Some dishes like soups can be just as much about the aroma as the flavor. 

We as people are built (typically) with a tolerance buildup that makes things that were once desirable less effective, which is what often pushes people to strive towards novelty. Consequently, finding how long you need to be away from something can be a way to keep it fresh, like revisiting a show you've already seen once it doesn't feel as imprinted on the mind.

Tolerance and appetite working in tandem sort of forces a journey if it's to be enjoyed. 

Even if the senses were to be heightened, as hunger does, you'd have to practice immense self control to then have a single piece of cheddar or whatever and focus on appreciating it, as opposed to gorging on the entire pack. 

Immense..? 

I just take sips of water between bites if I need to stop myself from finishing something too quickly, otherwise if the desire to eat it all in one bite strikes me... it's on occasion been worth it to spoil myself and get towards a certain sensation, like going for four pieces of cheese to really have it taste thick enough. 

If you're not hungry, you're free of the craving sensation, which in turn allows you to taste the food free from the bias that being hungry brings. You can just taste it for what it is without wanting to feel satiated. Hunger comes with a whole lot more than an appetite and a craving. 

The passion, the desire, is what gives it value. To just see it for what it is plainly blands the experience. 

Turncoat said: 

Xadem said: 

I'm not sure if being very hungry would make you appreciate the art of food more.

Both hunger and thirst (and other appetites like sex) work in that it's when you want it most that all the flavors receptors are like... ready for it, more easily excited. 

Eating the same dish as what you just ate will lack the novelty and tongue-shock that was otherwise there for the first one. This sort of idea is what has led to things like palate cleansing, the idea of clearing your mouth of the flavor that's in there with something complimentary, and is why people are willing to pay exorbitant amounts for the tiniest of portions. Flavor is an art, and much like when your nose smells something for too long it can become easier to ignore it. 

It's also why the notion of "spoiling your appetite" came from. If you have snacks before the meal is ready, it's not just a problem over how you might not finish it but also how it won't taste as suspensefully built up, it'll become needless. When what you desire is in abundance, it can become easier to become affluent with it. 

I can see what you mean, it's pretty logical. Hunger is to food what horniness is to sex, sure. You'll appreciate the food more, but where does the art come in? Appreciating flavour more? 

Hunger puts you in a somewhat desperate position. Is that really the ideal state of mind to appreciate something refined?

To clarify, I don't mean like... starving.

Oh, that word threw me off, lol. I guess that's why you alluded to a hunger sweetspot or golden zone of sorts. 

Hunger can even awaken the olfactory functions in ways that can allow you to enjoy a meal differently. Some dishes like soups can be just as much about the aroma as the flavor. 

We as people are built (typically) with a tolerance buildup that makes things that were once desirable less effective, which is what often pushes people to strive towards novelty. Consequently, finding how long you need to be away from something can be a way to keep it fresh, like revisiting a show you've already seen once it doesn't feel as imprinted on the mind.

Tolerance and appetite working in tandem sort of forces a journey if it's to be enjoyed. 

Even if the senses were to be heightened, as hunger does, you'd have to practice immense self control to then have a single piece of cheddar or whatever and focus on appreciating it, as opposed to gorging on the entire pack. 

Immense..? 

I just take sips of water between bites if I need to stop myself from finishing something too quickly, otherwise if the desire to eat it all in one bite strikes me... it's occasionally been worth it to get towards a certain sensation, like going for four pieces of cheese to really have it taste thick enough. 

You should try both starving and dehydrating yourself before a meal then, get the ultimate experience :)

If you're not hungry, you're free of the craving sensation, which in turn allows you to taste the food free from the bias that being hungry brings. You can just taste it for what it is without wanting to feel satiated. Hunger comes with a whole lot more than an appetite and a craving. 

The passion, the desire, is what gives it value. To just see it for what it is plainly blands the experience. 

See but, here's where I don't know what kind of hunger we're talking about. If I'm just craving a piece of parmezane cheese then I'm not hungry, am I? And yet I really enjoy it. 

Xadem said: 

I can see what you mean, it's pretty logical. Hunger is to food what horniness is to sex, sure. You'll appreciate the food more, but where does the art come in? Appreciating flavour more? 

Appreciating it more's more like critique or discernment. The art is in the flavor itself. 

If you go to a museum with no room to appreciate the art, it doesn't make it less 'art'. Art itself is formless, it's the room for it to have an affect on someone at all. 

Art is conceptual being, but our room to appreciate it denotes our room to enjoy it. If we are hungrier for any form of art, it will give us more zeal in it's appreciation and leave a stronger impression on our minds. 

Oh, that word threw me off, lol. I guess that's why you alluded to a hunger sweetspot or golden zone of sorts. 

Yeah... if you're at the point where it feels harder to walk around it's going too far. 

You should try both starving and dehydrating yourself before a meal then, get the ultimate experience :)

Like it is with not sleeping, the only point where it's enjoyable is when it's burning through your reserves (a 'Second Wind'). When you're running on empty the problem shifts over to being unable to perceive the experience properly, like watching a movie when you're half-asleep. 

If you're not hungry, you're free of the craving sensation, which in turn allows you to taste the food free from the bias that being hungry brings. You can just taste it for what it is without wanting to feel satiated. Hunger comes with a whole lot more than an appetite and a craving. 

The passion, the desire, is what gives it value. To just see it for what it is plainly blands the experience. 

See but, here's where I don't know what kind of hunger we're talking about. If I'm just craving a piece of parmezane cheese then I'm not hungry, am I? And yet I really enjoy it. 

Have you ever had a craving for a specific food, but didn't have the means of sating that craving for a notable period of time? The suspense makes it better, like my old once a week Chipotle ritual I used to do in college (back when it tasted any good). 

I had a relationship like that with Cadbury Mini Eggs' seasonal availability, and otherwise have had a sort of sensory homesickness for associative meals.