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they aren't trying to have this talk yet

Kestrel said: 

they aren't trying to have this talk yet

Suggesting you're ahead of the curve? 

You get what you're looking for.

QuietBeef said: 

You get what you're looking for.

Those who recognize things similar to Turing in humans though tend to aim to steer what someone's looking for through environmental conditioning. What one looks for can precede the effort of seeking it, much like porn has shown about the majority of people. They would need the predisposition to either be that easily conditioned or otherwise primed towards that specific sensory promise, but the tools themselves have largely surpassed the people. 

I however would argue both genders are prone to it (men more so actually), and that the only ones who escape it somewhat are those who blend multiple concepts together, like artists and writers. We live in a world of ideas and we absorb it like sensory sponges, and we can't help but reflect that as we try to find our part in it all. 

Turncoat said: 

QuietBeef said: 

You get what you're looking for.

Those who recognize things similar to Turing in humans though tend to aim to steer what someone's looking for through environmental conditioning. What one looks for can precede the effort of seeking it, much like porn has shown about the majority of people. They would need the predisposition to either be that easily conditioned or otherwise primed towards that specific sensory promise, but the tools themselves have largely surpassed the people. 

I however would argue both genders are prone to it (men more so actually), and that the only ones who escape it somewhat are those who blend multiple concepts together, like artists and writers. We live in a world of ideas and we absorb it like sensory sponges, and we can't help but reflect that as we try to find our part in it all. 

 Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I don't really see how what we're saying contradicts. Or are you just elaborating?

My point is that the stimulus precedes the appetite, that society is built to have people as they find their place in it pick up expected behaviors from their peers and stimulus conditioning like advertisements. We don't get what we're looking for, what we're looking for gets us. 

It also contradicts the gender claim of the OP while otherwise agreeing that we're just parrot-monkeys. 

Turncoat said: 

My point is that the stimulus precedes the appetite, that society is built to have people as they find their place in it pick up expected behaviors from their peers and stimulus conditioning like advertisements. We don't get what we're looking for, what we're looking for gets us. 

You don't think it gets steered towards this agenda or that? That the desires of the few aren't imprinted on the many? You'd have to assume that all of society has shared in the power of it's predominate guiding voice.

It also contradicts the gender claim of the OP while otherwise agreeing that we're just parrot-monkeys. 

 I don't disagree that we're parrot monkeys, or that both genders are subject to it, but I do think this problem is more prevalent in women. I think there's more pressure on them to conform. Men have slightly more open expectations.