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One small step for Liberalism, one giant leap for Fascism


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Just another step, its just youtube, its just an online social platform, just the internet, so you don't have to be concerned.
I mean it was also only Tommy Robinson a few steps behind, and it was just FB, only 1 million followers, you are not a pleb like him, so you will never have to worry about being harassed by the police for no reason(just don't post mean tweets).

 

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The problem is this, those of the right wing that harbor racist views, and are radicalized in similar ways like the Christchurch shooter do cause problems for Corporations and the government. 


Right wing Terrorism seems to have more punch than that of the Left. ANTIFA and it depends on the country I suppose, will riot and protest and cause vandalism, and maybe punch people here and there, from what it seems those on the right, are motivated and stronger, they will work out, they will gather arms, and they will take action in a much more violent way. 

So, when you have this white nationalist content on youtube, it scares business away because of the acts of Brenton Tarrant, or Dylan Roof, etc. 

Having groups of people that can actually stir up violence and cause it, isn't good for making a buck.

I can also foresee this censorship being used as a tool to censor more things, such as people on the left, mainly the far left, such as communists, and those who don't fall in line with liberalism and would call for actual revolution rather than social reform. 

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The problem is this, those of the right wing that harbor racist views, and are radicalized in similar ways like the Christchurch shooter do cause problems for Corporations and the government. 


Right wing Terrorism seems to have more punch than that of the Left. ANTIFA and it depends on the country I suppose, will riot and protest and cause vandalism, and maybe punch people here and there, from what it seems those on the right, are motivated and stronger, they will work out, they will gather arms, and they will take action in a much more violent way. 

So, when you have this white nationalist content on youtube, it scares business away because of the acts of Brenton Tarrant, or Dylan Roof, etc. 

Having groups of people that can actually stir up violence and cause it, isn't good for making a buck.

I can also foresee this censorship being used as a tool to censor more things, such as people on the left, mainly the far left, such as communists, and those who don't fall in line with liberalism and would call for actual revolution rather than social reform. 

In reality the communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline.

Anyway, most(if not all, i dont know all of them) of the affected accounts are not white nationalist or produce such content. And only non far left content is censored, the same is on twitter and FB. They produce anti-communist content/anti-far left.

The real liberals are censored.

 

And this censorship will cause more radicalization and more right wing followers(as it should). If the far left is not stopped peacefully or somehow dies in its own tracks, which is possible, then there will be real violence eventually(in a few years(might even be a decade, these things can happen very fast or slowly accumulate) probably).

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Good said: 

The problem is this, those of the right wing that harbor racist views, and are radicalized in similar ways like the Christchurch shooter do cause problems for Corporations and the government. 


Right wing Terrorism seems to have more punch than that of the Left. ANTIFA and it depends on the country I suppose, will riot and protest and cause vandalism, and maybe punch people here and there, from what it seems those on the right, are motivated and stronger, they will work out, they will gather arms, and they will take action in a much more violent way. 

So, when you have this white nationalist content on youtube, it scares business away because of the acts of Brenton Tarrant, or Dylan Roof, etc. 

Having groups of people that can actually stir up violence and cause it, isn't good for making a buck.

I can also foresee this censorship being used as a tool to censor more things, such as people on the left, mainly the far left, such as communists, and those who don't fall in line with liberalism and would call for actual revolution rather than social reform. 

In reality the communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline.

Anyway, most(if not all, i dont know all of them) of the affected accounts are not white nationalist or produce such content. And only non far left content is censored, the same is on twitter and FB. They produce anti-communist content/anti-far left.

The real liberals are censored.

 

And this censorship will cause more radicalization and more right wing followers(as it should). If the far left is not stopped peacefully or somehow dies in its own tracks, which is possible, then there will be real violence eventually(in a few years(might even be a decade, these things can happen very fast or slowly accumulate) probably).

 I don't see this notion of "communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline"

There aren't much communists anymore, and I don't believe they hold any position of power, and yes, I'm aware not all the accounts are classified as the radicalized sectors of the right wing, it's because of those radicals that gives this liberal corruption the tools to censor, and because of that censorship, it will only lead to worse issues. 

The communist movement in America, and most of the first world is either there, or actually just liberals that like to call themselves marxists without actually understanding Marxism. 

I don't see any far-left takeover. Especially when Communism is still regarded as evil and bad by American society, it's still taught in school as such, and there are lots of liberals that would agree to such. 

I hope you're not someone who would believe in the conspiracy of cultural marxism, or calling post-modernists as neo-marxists. Marxists very much hate liberals, at least ones that actually read Marx. Both socially and economically, Liberalism is a threat to Marxism. 

If by "real liberals" you're referring to skeptic channels like Armored Skeptic, Amazing Atheist, then sure, but the SJW, Intersectionality Liberalism is still not a friend of Marxism, even though at least in the First world, there's been those groups of people trying act like Marxists.

Sorry if that's slightly confusing. My point is, no form of Liberalism is friendly to Marxism.


P.S. I might be gone for a few hours, I'll try to respond when I get back, I have some stuff to do. I look forward to your response. 

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Good said: 

The problem is this, those of the right wing that harbor racist views, and are radicalized in similar ways like the Christchurch shooter do cause problems for Corporations and the government. 


Right wing Terrorism seems to have more punch than that of the Left. ANTIFA and it depends on the country I suppose, will riot and protest and cause vandalism, and maybe punch people here and there, from what it seems those on the right, are motivated and stronger, they will work out, they will gather arms, and they will take action in a much more violent way. 

So, when you have this white nationalist content on youtube, it scares business away because of the acts of Brenton Tarrant, or Dylan Roof, etc. 

Having groups of people that can actually stir up violence and cause it, isn't good for making a buck.

I can also foresee this censorship being used as a tool to censor more things, such as people on the left, mainly the far left, such as communists, and those who don't fall in line with liberalism and would call for actual revolution rather than social reform. 

In reality the communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline.

Anyway, most(if not all, i dont know all of them) of the affected accounts are not white nationalist or produce such content. And only non far left content is censored, the same is on twitter and FB. They produce anti-communist content/anti-far left.

The real liberals are censored.

 

And this censorship will cause more radicalization and more right wing followers(as it should). If the far left is not stopped peacefully or somehow dies in its own tracks, which is possible, then there will be real violence eventually(in a few years(might even be a decade, these things can happen very fast or slowly accumulate) probably).

 I don't see this notion of "communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline"

There aren't much communists anymore, and I don't believe they hold any position of power, and yes, I'm aware not all the accounts are classified as the radicalized sectors of the right wing, it's because of those radicals that gives this liberal corruption the tools to censor, and because of that censorship, it will only lead to worse issues. 

The communist movement in America, and most of the first world is either there, or actually just liberals that like to call themselves marxists without actually understanding Marxism. 

I don't see any far-left takeover. Especially when Communism is still regarded as evil and bad by American society, it's still taught in school as such, and there are lots of liberals that would agree to such. 

I hope you're not someone who would believe in the conspiracy of cultural marxism, or calling post-modernists as neo-marxists. Marxists very much hate liberals, at least ones that actually read Marx. Both socially and economically, Liberalism is a threat to Marxism. 

If by "real liberals" you're referring to skeptic channels like Armored Skeptic, Amazing Atheist, then sure, but the SJW, Intersectionality Liberalism is still not a friend of Marxism, even though at least in the First world, there's been those groups of people trying act like Marxists.

Sorry if that's slightly confusing. My point is, no form of Liberalism is friendly to Marxism.


P.S. I might be gone for a few hours, I'll try to respond when I get back, I have some stuff to do. I look forward to your response. 

The progressive far-left(SJW & Intersectionality/PC politics) are not liberals. They are pro censorship and segregation based on race and gender. They have directly been opposed to free speech. The 'take over' is clear in the media giants and it is starting to shine in the UK police force. They censor all who oppose the progressive narratives.

I call real liberals are people who are for political liberty, aka not me and not the far-left.

 

And I call people communist if they spout communist rhetoric as long as their rhetoric is to an extend that would define a larger portion of their ideology as communist.
I do not know what you mean by real communists, most people have a mix of political ideas and there are no 'pure' communists + most of these people don't even understand the world they live in, so they just want what they don't understand, but regardless, they push for it.

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Good said: 
Good said: 

The problem is this, those of the right wing that harbor racist views, and are radicalized in similar ways like the Christchurch shooter do cause problems for Corporations and the government. 


Right wing Terrorism seems to have more punch than that of the Left. ANTIFA and it depends on the country I suppose, will riot and protest and cause vandalism, and maybe punch people here and there, from what it seems those on the right, are motivated and stronger, they will work out, they will gather arms, and they will take action in a much more violent way. 

So, when you have this white nationalist content on youtube, it scares business away because of the acts of Brenton Tarrant, or Dylan Roof, etc. 

Having groups of people that can actually stir up violence and cause it, isn't good for making a buck.

I can also foresee this censorship being used as a tool to censor more things, such as people on the left, mainly the far left, such as communists, and those who don't fall in line with liberalism and would call for actual revolution rather than social reform. 

In reality the communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline.

Anyway, most(if not all, i dont know all of them) of the affected accounts are not white nationalist or produce such content. And only non far left content is censored, the same is on twitter and FB. They produce anti-communist content/anti-far left.

The real liberals are censored.

 

And this censorship will cause more radicalization and more right wing followers(as it should). If the far left is not stopped peacefully or somehow dies in its own tracks, which is possible, then there will be real violence eventually(in a few years(might even be a decade, these things can happen very fast or slowly accumulate) probably).

 I don't see this notion of "communists are those censoring people on the right of them both online and offline"

There aren't much communists anymore, and I don't believe they hold any position of power, and yes, I'm aware not all the accounts are classified as the radicalized sectors of the right wing, it's because of those radicals that gives this liberal corruption the tools to censor, and because of that censorship, it will only lead to worse issues. 

The communist movement in America, and most of the first world is either there, or actually just liberals that like to call themselves marxists without actually understanding Marxism. 

I don't see any far-left takeover. Especially when Communism is still regarded as evil and bad by American society, it's still taught in school as such, and there are lots of liberals that would agree to such. 

I hope you're not someone who would believe in the conspiracy of cultural marxism, or calling post-modernists as neo-marxists. Marxists very much hate liberals, at least ones that actually read Marx. Both socially and economically, Liberalism is a threat to Marxism. 

If by "real liberals" you're referring to skeptic channels like Armored Skeptic, Amazing Atheist, then sure, but the SJW, Intersectionality Liberalism is still not a friend of Marxism, even though at least in the First world, there's been those groups of people trying act like Marxists.

Sorry if that's slightly confusing. My point is, no form of Liberalism is friendly to Marxism.


P.S. I might be gone for a few hours, I'll try to respond when I get back, I have some stuff to do. I look forward to your response. 

The progressive far-left(SJW & Intersectionality/PC politics) are not liberals. They are pro censorship and segregation based on race and gender. They have directly been opposed to free speech. The 'take over' is clear in the media giants and it is starting to shine in the UK police force. They censor all who oppose the progressive narratives.

I call real liberals are people who are for political liberty, aka not me and not the far-left.

 

And I call people communist if they spout communist rhetoric as long as their rhetoric is to an extend that would define a larger portion of their ideology as communist.
I do not know what you mean by real communists, most people have a mix of political ideas and there are no 'pure' communists + most of these people don't even understand the world they live in, so they just want what they don't understand, but regardless, they push for it.

 I guess this inevitably leads to a difference in the lenses used to see the situation. It still makes the discussion and different view points interesting to consider. 

The way I view the current situation is that youtube has censored right wing channels and is more progressive, because progressives don't challenge the status quo. The state is entirely fine with giving them the reforms that they want, where as with the radicalized right wing, and I'm not grouping all them as radicalized. They stir up social anxiety, and cause issues for businesses, it's a knee jerk reaction. We can debate in regards on which youtuber is bad or which isn't, the argument I saw against Crowder was homophobic/racist jokes, while I'd disagree with making those types of jokes if you're trying to make a argument against someone, I'm not against offensive humor, but there's a time and place for that. 

The problem is with labeling progressives as communists or calling themselves communists, is that it rejects Marxist theory. These progressives are still entirely fine with the capitalist economic system, these progressives reject calling for revolution and would rather seek their changes through social reforms. 


The core basis of Marxism is to organize and overthrow Capitalism because you can't change the system from within. Marxism views the Capitalism economic system as inherently unequal and oppressive. That there will always be a class struggle between bourgeoisie and the proletariat and class-collaborationism does not fix anything. 

I guess there isn't much we can debate on in this regard, we both see corruption, just for different reasons. I'd still argue that there is no communist popularity, and that the progressives can call themselves marxists but unless they actually read Marx and accept it's core foundation of anti-capitalism, then they are just as a threat if not worse than the right because they give the idealistic view that you can socially reform the system and achieve communism peacefully. 

In short, my point is these progressives aren't entirely a threat to corporations or the government, where as far right can stir up social anxiety and scare off business, which leads to censorship, whether it be entirely focused on actual radicals or not. 

Problem is, with this censorship it would only cause more havoc, and thus it will only cement the views of the radicals even further. 

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Once Inq used a Vox video with Carlos Maza trying to make a point that had to do with political parties and they pointed out fake facts, and I tried to save Inq by pointing out Vox's media bias, but he wouldn't listen.

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I also pointed out the true nature of the democratic party's history, but that never worked either.

Maybe now he'll awaken.

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