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I'm not going to bore you by linking all the scientific reports and articles I've been referencing. (lol i couldnt help myself sorry)

Instead I'll link just this one, because it is the most relevant (to the talk about a deadlier second strain) and concise:

It is normal for Coronaviruses to have multiple strains

I'm going to list all the facts about coronavirus that are relevant and not talked about enough in the media

Keep in mind that when I say coronavirus, I'm talking about the general group of viruses that includes many strains of SARS, COVID-2019,  and MERS.  SIRS, however, is the Systemic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, which is a feature of coronaviruses.

  • The 2-strain model for SIRS viruses is known and expected
    • A dominant strain will become most frequent and will be replaced in dominance by the second strain. This is a cycle.  A 3-strain or multi-strain model has been proposed as well, but it seems the 2-strain model is more widely accepted.
  • There are 2 strains of COVID-2019:
  • There is talk that genetic signatures from multiple viruses has been found in COVID-2019
  • There have been two types of tests for COVID-2019
    • The earlier one was not accurate and therefore we cannot determine how many people are actually infected
      • This is statistically significant: assume all current numbers and projections are innacurate
    • The newer test requires 2 positive test results out of 5
      • This is common for tests of many ailments but still unreliable
  • Science moves very slowly: take what you hear with a grain of salt
    • Do not go on a frenzy over week old results from a research paper
    • A hypothesis must be repeated and proved many many times before it is confirmed as a theory or law
      • This can take decades
  • Mortality Rates
    • Flu: 1%
    • SARS (2013): 10%
    • MERS (2012): 34%
    • COVID-2019: estimated at 3.4% (however I disagree that the data is reliable)
    • Ebola: 40%
    • Nipah: 77%
      • COVID-19 more closely resembles SARS and its mortality rate should reflect that
      • only when its rate exceeds 10% will we know that this is a more dangerous strain of Coronavirus
  • Response
    • Obama waited till 1000 confirmed cases of Ebola to declare a National Emergency
    • Trump waited for only 1 unconfirmed case due to media frenzy
      • Entry from China is already restricted
      • For the sake of brevity: Trumps response has been much hastier
  • History
    • Coronaviruses originate from horseshoe bats mainly
    • 11 new strains of SARS and several older strains were sequenced in horseshoe bats in caves of southern china 
      • All strains contained all the essential genetic building blocks of the human SARS coronavirus
      • This is where the epidemic cycling is originating from.  This is China's fault: due to culture and ignorance
      • This is not the first SARS type of Coronavirus that has become an epidemic and it doesn't show signs of being worse than the previous ones. This *can* change if the mortality rate quadrouples
      • Opinion: I would link a quote of a researcher saying that COVID-19 doesn't show to be more dangerous but I won't because that's one mans opinion.
last edit on 3/11/2020 4:36:25 PM
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The virus is caused by looking albino children in the eyes, doctors suggest averting your gaze at all times 

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 This saddens me. Why must people be so retartded

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FOTS said:
This saddens me. Why must people be so retartded

Must be something in the alcohol. 

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I wanted to reflect on my predictions and research about COVID now that enough time has passed and data is becoming more concrete and reliable. Despite the fact that all the data and information we needed to make the right decisions is out there, if only the right people had looked, we still made mistakes on every level. This pandemic was a true testament to the ignorance of people in power and their inability to research problems they are legislating, a strong strike against elitism. We knew about the danger of using respirators, but we destroyed peoples' lungs en masse anyway. We know that cloth masks are useless and that if you touch a mask it must be discarded or it will no longer prevent transmission, but we mandated mask use anyway— a facade.  We knew that our testing methods were inaccurate, but we used them to track infection anyway. We knew that comorbidity must be used to determine cause of death, but we ruined the death toll data by including them anyway. We knew that coronaviruses should only have 2 strains, and this was mentioned by leading virologists, but nobody questioned it a second time when we hit the 4th strain.  We knew our mortality rate was inaccurate—because of comorbidity counts—but we still let corporate media scare people with inflated numbers.  Lastly, we knew myocarditis increases young peoples' risk of dying of heart conditions earlier in life, but we told people the vaccine was safe anyway. Yes, mRNA vaccines do increase your risk for heart failures if you had myocarditis after vaccination—by 40% if memory serves me right.

 

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The main takeaways from looking back at my research after the pandemic ended:

It appears that COVID-19 initially followed the 2-strain model for spread which would imply that the pandemic should have been over after the second L-type strain worked its way through the population.  However, we all know that this did not happen. It is extremely irregular for coronaviruses to follow a multi-strain model if it is a naturally occurring variant.  However, that is less relevant when you consider that Philips et al. state that the multi-strain models ignore too many factors. 

Philips et al. said:
Multistrain metapopulation models may be generalized by considering arbitrary numbers of strains and/or populations, or by shedding many of the assumptions included here.

This part is entirely opinion and hopefully we see some research on this.  I think, based on the invalidity of the multi-strain model for naturally occurring coronaviruses, we can more safely assume that COVID-19 does not portray the typical characteristics of coronaviruses and may very well have been modified through gain of function.  The feeling is being echoed in newer research that I haven't looked into so I do not know the specifics of why the gain of function claim is increasing in validity. It is even more likely when you consider that the Wuhan institute frequently failed its viral containment strategy inspections and there were "serious concerns" about their handling of viruses. 

I am not attributing motive, however it is clear that the testing data which were used to track the spread were significantly inflated due to their inherent inaccuracies and we ignored the research that told us of the problems with that current method.  This is a little more relevant when you account for the widespread misdiagnosing of COVID deaths due to hospitals not accounting for comorbidities, because many were informed not to by government agencies.

The mortality rate of COVID-19 was originally exponentially wrong. It was estimated at 3.4% at the time of the original post, which I discounted as incorrect.  I did not state it in the OP but I was calling it at slightly less than 2%.  I did not predict, however, that we would now determine it to be lower than 1%: lower than the flu.  I was undecided, to a small degree, if the mortality rate would resemble SARS (10%).  I was leaning toward 2% based merely on logic and how immediately disastrous a virus like COVID-19 would be with a 10% rate. This was clearly the more accurate conclusion. It would have been painfully obvious if the virus was actually as deadly as they initially reported.  

It is rather interesting to look back at the bat origin claim.  It is clear that it gained prevalence due to our awareness that a large number of SARS strains are present in the cave bats of south China that all contained the necessary components to be transmissible to humans.  It's actually rather surprising that we don't have more pandemics despite that fact.  This is especially true since it is predicted that pandemics will occur at much higher rates in the future due to our encroaching proximity to animal populations as our own population grows toward its 10 billion person cap. Coupled with the lack of proper medical care and ability for cleanliness associated with developing nations and the increasing rate of travel between countries, pandemics should be rather common in coming years.

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I was very sure that it came from the Wuhan Lab, and that I felt suspicious at how quickly that theory was swept under the rug, even in Europe. But now I don't keep up anymore. 

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