I plan on making a response soon, and if this thread gets buried, I'll simply make a new one. I want to continue this debate at some point.
My problem right now is I'm focusing on my own crisis. I am to ship out to boot camp March 30th. I've decided I want to try to switch to reserves.
My dream outcome would be to switch to reserves, go back to the college I was originally going to, and either room with my friend who I was rooming with before, or get a job and live in a rentable house in the town.
The fear I have with going active duty and living on base is that I feel like I'll be watched and not have much privacy. I realize I am young, and I feel all the things I would miss. Plus, it seems more logical to try to go to college as soon as possible rather than later.
My aspirations to be in the field of computer science aren't dead as I said in the past, it's just that in my mindset, I can't help but feel impatient and that's something I need to work on.
If I can get money saved up, I'm even considering the idea of trying to seek mental help for some of my issues, I'm not entirely sure because I got some big trust issues, and I feel like things I say could be used against me.
If I can't switch to reserves, then I will shipout and face the consequences of my actions. It will be my burden to pay.
I feel like an idiot, I was just so impatient and wanted to spill blood. I put too much faith in some people and that's what lead me to this path.
I was so impulsive during college, I could feel the violence, it's what drove me to start harming small animals while on campus, and it's why I just nose-dived right into a new problem.
I still got these damn issues, and they do annoy me. No matter what I do, I'm in a catch 22. I'm just trying to find the best solution possible. I fear the concept of civilian life, but I am going to have to face it.
I'm not sure what to major in but fields I definitely want to focus on are philosophy, political science, economics, psychology, and computer science.
I don't know how long it will be before I make a response, I'm just taking time to sort my life out.
I plan on making a response soon, and if this thread gets buried, I'll simply make a new one. I want to continue this debate at some point.
My problem right now is I'm focusing on my own crisis. I am to ship out to boot camp March 30th. I've decided I want to try to switch to reserves.
My dream outcome would be to switch to reserves, go back to the college I was originally going to, and either room with my friend who I was rooming with before, or get a job and live in a rentable house in the town.
The fear I have with going active duty and living on base is that I feel like I'll be watched and not have much privacy. I realize I am young, and I feel all the things I would miss. Plus, it seems more logical to try to go to college as soon as possible rather than later.
My aspirations to be in the field of computer science aren't dead as I said in the past, it's just that in my mindset, I can't help but feel impatient and that's something I need to work on.
If I can get money saved up, I'm even considering the idea of trying to seek mental help for some of my issues, I'm not entirely sure because I got some big trust issues, and I feel like things I say could be used against me.
If I can't switch to reserves, then I will shipout and face the consequences of my actions. It will be my burden to pay.
I feel like an idiot, I was just so impatient and wanted to spill blood. I put too much faith in some people and that's what lead me to this path.
I was so impulsive during college, I could feel the violence, it's what drove me to start harming small animals while on campus, and it's why I just nose-dived right into a new problem.
I still got these damn issues, and they do annoy me. No matter what I do, I'm in a catch 22. I'm just trying to find the best solution possible. I fear the concept of civilian life, but I am going to have to face it.
I'm not sure what to major in but fields I definitely want to focus on are philosophy, political science, economics, psychology, and computer science.
I don't know how long it will be before I make a response, I'm just taking time to sort my life out.
Here, you can still get out:
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-legally-leave-the-military-before-my-bootcamp-date
You can simply not show up to shipping and not have anything happen to you from my research of the subject.
"If I can't switch to reserves, then I will shipout and face the consequences of my actions. It will be my burden to pay."
How about not being a retard instead of that line of thinking?
user said:"If I can't switch to reserves, then I will shipout and face the consequences of my actions. It will be my burden to pay."
How about not being a retard instead of that line of thinking?
I was already aware I can leave, it's DEP it's not legally bound. I wouldn't call myself retarded with that line of thinking, I dislike the concept of outright quitting, because well one, in some capacity, I want to be in the military, and two. I've spent a lot of time in setting this up, I got people cheering for me to become a marine. The concept of just randomly saying no doesn't bode well.
I feel like it would make me seem inconsistent, more so than before. On some level I want to be viewed as normal and maintain some form of reputation.
If I did that it would entirely make it look as if I just quit college for no reason, decided I wanted to be a marine, then spent an entire year fucking around, only to not become a marine, and return right back to college.
user said:"If I can't switch to reserves, then I will shipout and face the consequences of my actions. It will be my burden to pay."
How about not being a retard instead of that line of thinking?I was already aware I can leave, it's DEP it's not legally bound. I wouldn't call myself retarded with that line of thinking, I dislike the concept of outright quitting, because well one, in some capacity, I want to be in the military, and two. I've spent a lot of time in setting this up, I got people cheering for me to become a marine. The concept of just randomly saying no doesn't bode well.
I feel like it would make me seem inconsistent, more so than before. On some level I want to be viewed as normal and maintain some form of reputation.
If I did that it would entirely make it look as if I just quit college for no reason, decided I wanted to be a marine, then spent an entire year fucking around, only to not become a marine, and return right back to college.
So you're telling me you're going to spend 5 years in miserable working conditions out of... Pride? And sunken costs fallacy.
If you still wanna get into it on the other hand, you're just memeing with the other arguments. "I wanna be a muh-rine" is not something anyone can contest as a reason to join and go through with it. But! That's inconsistent with wanting to be in the reserves.
Is this whole marines project a form of escapism for you? Or a form of wanting to distinguish yourself as special in a way? Got something to prove, but you don't exactly know what it is or how to do it?
For someone in your position, that can go to college without the help of the military, it's simply an odd choice. It's kinda cray cray innit? "I will join the military for combat training so that I can go nuts after" . If the cray cray convictions are starting to fall apart, you can surely see how your life would be much better off as a civilian.
It's called a gap year for finding yourself, people do it all the time!
If you care that much about what people think, you can always lie to them. They didn't let me in because I failed a fitness test. Apparently I have "insert condition here". It's a real bummer man, I really wanted in :/.
This "actually I wanna be a reserve" feels a lot like you're beginning to realise you've fucked up somewhere. Do you feel the terror of what being a marine will demand from you? The regret of taking this path? The burning wish you had continued before with something you were doing?
That's pretty good. You can make mistakes and learn from them. To make a mistake, acknowledge it as such, then do it anyway is kinda foolish.
You quit college because you wanted to change your path and faced some issues. Along way you realised the previous path was better so you went back to it. You will have gained the wisdom to not quit and carry on with college from this year, that's how I choose to view it if you do decide to not go through with the marine thing.
You quit college, got groomed into some Cray cray communist sort of terrorist unit. Got into the marines for combat training to get better at terrorism. Then ??? Is how I'd view it initially.
There are a lot of what do you want. And why. And how will I get it sort of questions that you need to be asking yourself now, and hopefully make a rational decision.
/Rant
user said:"If I can't switch to reserves, then I will shipout and face the consequences of my actions. It will be my burden to pay."
How about not being a retard instead of that line of thinking?I was already aware I can leave, it's DEP it's not legally bound. I wouldn't call myself retarded with that line of thinking, I dislike the concept of outright quitting, because well one, in some capacity, I want to be in the military, and two. I've spent a lot of time in setting this up, I got people cheering for me to become a marine. The concept of just randomly saying no doesn't bode well.
I feel like it would make me seem inconsistent, more so than before. On some level I want to be viewed as normal and maintain some form of reputation.
If I did that it would entirely make it look as if I just quit college for no reason, decided I wanted to be a marine, then spent an entire year fucking around, only to not become a marine, and return right back to college.So you're telling me you're going to spend 5 years in miserable working conditions out of... Pride? And sunken costs fallacy.
If you still wanna get into it on the other hand, you're just memeing with the other arguments. "I wanna be a muh-rine" is not something anyone can contest as a reason to join and go through with it. But! That's inconsistent with wanting to be in the reserves.
Is this whole marines project a form of escapism for you? Or a form of wanting to distinguish yourself as special in a way? Got something to prove, but you don't exactly know what it is or how to do it?
For someone in your position, that can go to college without the help of the military, it's simply an odd choice. It's kinda cray cray innit? "I will join the military for combat training so that I can go nuts after" . If the cray cray convictions are starting to fall apart, you can surely see how your life would be much better off as a civilian.
It's called a gap year for finding yourself, people do it all the time!
If you care that much about what people think, you can always lie to them. They didn't let me in because I failed a fitness test. Apparently I have "insert condition here". It's a real bummer man, I really wanted in :/.
This "actually I wanna be a reserve" feels a lot like you're beginning to realise you've fucked up somewhere. Do you feel the terror of what being a marine will demand from you? The regret of taking this path? The burning wish you had continued before with something you were doing?
That's pretty good. You can make mistakes and learn from them. To make a mistake, acknowledge it as such, then do it anyway is kinda foolish.
You quit college because you wanted to change your path and faced some issues. Along way you realised the previous path was better so you went back to it. You will have gained the wisdom to not quit and carry on with college from this year, that's how I choose to view it if you do decide to not go through with the marine thing.
You quit college, got groomed into some Cray cray communist sort of terrorist unit. Got into the marines for combat training to get better at terrorism. Then ??? Is how I'd view it initially.
There are a lot of what do you want. And why. And how will I get it sort of questions that you need to be asking yourself now, and hopefully make a rational decision.
/Rant
I wouldn't say I was groomed into being a communist terrorist. I just met people with similar goals, and I was already pretty impulsive and dealing with crazy thoughts.
You got a point though, I should probably just drop out. That doesn't mean I won't return. I plan on going back when I get my degree and becoming an officer.
I'd say to an extent it was influenced by escapism, but not entirely. I still want to enter military.
For the most part, there's just a lot I want to learn and achieve, but I become impatient while also procrastinate.
I need to learn self-discipline and to try to not bite off more than I can chew.