-incels and femcels both make the claim that women and men are hypergamous, but they're both right.
-men are hypergamous with looks, youth and health
-women are hypergamous with money and status
-incels are also correct about feminism. feminism has contributed to why they are incel because now that women have rights, they don't need men to survive as much as they used to. they don't do nearly as much survival sex as they did in the first half of the 20th century or even the 80s and 90s. they are wrong in their reactionary ideology. women shouldn't have to give up privileges and freedoms just so incels can get laid.
-since women have more freedoms, the men they do fuck need to be sexually appealing now. women care more about how men look now than they did ever before. incels overreact to this by circle-jerking about surgery and genetics.
-femcels are correct about the looks of women mattering more and men being more superficial on average. they even have data backing this. youth and fertility are key for women and pop culture exacerbates it. women generally put more effort into their appearance because looks just matter much more for women. this is one thing they constantly debunk incels on. women do care more if a man is hot nowadays, but it's nowhere near equal.
-incels and femcels are right about people with better genes being more advantaged. chads and stacies do exist, they have excellent genes. ignoring the fact that some people are just hotter is not going to do lower tier people (whether normie or cel) any favors.
-they both are 100% correct of the idea of "everyone is beautiful" being complete virtue-signalling bullshit. beauty is meant to be exclusive. no one deserves to be alone, but we should admit that, in most cultures, some people are just there to be settled for, at least in terms of looks. unless our culture changes in some intense way, this will probably always be the case.
-femcels and incels underestimate self-improvement in the 21st century. having physical flaws or deformities isn't that bad because of how easy it is to correct these things nowadays. there are far too many looksmaxxing, personalitymaxxing, careermaxxing, fitnessmaxxing, plasticmaxxing, etc resources available these days to mope as much as they do. they completely ignore the fact that being genetically deficient in any way in 2019 is a billion times better than being deformed at any other time.
another thread will probably be made on incels/femcels
