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Xadem said: 

The bandwagon really is steered purely by reputation if you guys think Inq is winning this thing. 

How many of you even bothered to read their post war? 

 No you seem too invested in this to decide the winner

What makes you want Inq to lose this much? 

Reading the entire topic, and recognizing this charade for what it truly is!

Seriously though it's sloppy debate and someone ought to be getting on his case over it in spite of his reputation-based smokescreen. It's pointing out these things that can serve to tear through the illusions otherwise in place and reach the heart of the truth. 

 I fail to see how there is more to it. It seems a bit far-fetched and influenced by factors exceeding logic. 

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Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

The bandwagon really is steered purely by reputation if you guys think Inq is winning this thing. 

How many of you even bothered to read their post war? 

 No you seem too invested in this to decide the winner

What makes you want Inq to lose this much? 

Reading the entire topic, and recognizing this charade for what it truly is!

Seriously though it's sloppy debate and someone ought to be getting on his case over it in spite of his reputation-based smokescreen. It's pointing out these things that can serve to tear through the illusions otherwise in place and reach the heart of the truth. 

 I fail to see how there is more to it. It seems a bit far-fetched and influenced by factors exceeding logic. 

How so? 

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Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

The bandwagon really is steered purely by reputation if you guys think Inq is winning this thing. 

How many of you even bothered to read their post war? 

 No you seem too invested in this to decide the winner

What makes you want Inq to lose this much? 

Reading the entire topic, and recognizing this charade for what it truly is!

Seriously though it's sloppy debate and someone ought to be getting on his case over it in spite of his reputation-based smokescreen. It's pointing out these things that can serve to tear through the illusions otherwise in place and reach the heart of the truth. 

 I fail to see how there is more to it. It seems a bit far-fetched and influenced by factors exceeding logic. 

How so? 

 Explain how it is a charade

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Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

The bandwagon really is steered purely by reputation if you guys think Inq is winning this thing. 

How many of you even bothered to read their post war? 

 No you seem too invested in this to decide the winner

What makes you want Inq to lose this much? 

Reading the entire topic, and recognizing this charade for what it truly is!

Seriously though it's sloppy debate and someone ought to be getting on his case over it in spite of his reputation-based smokescreen. It's pointing out these things that can serve to tear through the illusions otherwise in place and reach the heart of the truth. 

 I fail to see how there is more to it. It seems a bit far-fetched and influenced by factors exceeding logic. 

How so? 

 Explain how it is a charade

The charade is overarching in general, a symptom of what's going on as opposed to it's entirety. The importance of this is really over how the debate is going, but since you've asked... 

He carries himself like he's this sophisticated shmaht guy with zilch feelings, like some sort of Spock ripoff, yet he makes tons of mistakes and contradicts this illusion he's cast often (probably partially a side effect of the avatar). In spite of this though, through a few supporters and people who habitually wait for TLDR summations from seemingly anyone, this illusion of his intelligence and poise has made it surprisingly long in spite of a history of contradictions (his knowledge is usually quite niche and not hard to debunk unless he keeps it basic). 

He also tries to make excuses for his own laziness and stubbornness a lot (he feels entitled to these feelings when he's "right"), which strangely seems to work for him when compared to other people. As I mentioned to Legga, he only likes to go for easy subjects so that he can maintain the illusions he's cast, otherwise avoiding subjects that are not his forte to avoid showing how much he doesn't actually know (also he's done some dubious source linking), but occasionally he can be trapped into topics like this one and Gun Control and maybe, just maybe, other people will begin to see the real Inquirer. 

TLDR; The guy hides in plain sight, and uncovering him shows much. 

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last edit on 6/17/2019 1:53:04 AM
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Daily reminder that Legga sucks 

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 Alright time to re-start. Turncoat wrote this much better than I ever could:

The point here isn't over how valid his list is anymore, but instead how valid yours is. It's weird to see you not following his train over a very simple argument.

How is he supposed to come to a correct conclusion if his opponent won't even correct him in any way that's useful? You might as well just be saying "I'm right and you're wrong nyah nyah" if you can't even prove your ideas. The burden of proof has been saddled on you, as you were the last one to make a major claim on the stack.

 

I'll clarify why this is not moving forward. Inquirer, you're arguing for many different premises, hoping that one of them sticks. Almost everything you say is either factually incorrect, misquote, intentional misunderstanding, or beside the point. I've more or less already won by invoking Hitchen's Razor, since you've failed to prove your claims.

You've switched between 3 different stances by invoking semantics. First, you say I should provide "evidence", but then you can't even do it yourself. Then you switch: You didn't mean the usual definition of evidence, you meant this specific Inquirer definition. Then you realize your evidence has *obvious* issues. So you try to argue that Inquirer evidence is great (and still do, proving that this was your stance), and that failed. So your stance becomes "even though Inquirer evidence is shit, it's still better than yours!"

If you refuse to even define your premise then you can't expect me to take you seriously or respond to your points. It's akin to inviting me to discussion and then refusing to answer when I ask what the topic is.

So no more BS and semantics, you claim , by direct quote, "Inquirer evidence is better than your evidence", which conveniently allows you not to embarrass yourself completely. In this case:

If you claim I am an idiot for not presenting "Inquirer evidence," then I can apply the same logic to conclude that you are an idiot for not presenting "verifiable evidence." I expect that you don't want to conclude you are an idiot, by your own logic.

Since you're refusing to address even these type of simple problems related to your premise I'm satisfied with ending this argument now. I'll have this as my new signature:

"I am an idiot, even by my own logic"
- Inquirer (2019)

 

Ps. I do want to clarify this: It was your claim, and your requirement for good evidence, that all those people on the list have consistently spoken Swedish and claimed they were Swedish. Not mine. You consistently whine it's impossible to prove your own claim. But that's not my problem. It's your problem. I don't know what points you think you're scoring when you say it's impossible. You're the one who's supposed to ensure your own arguments are sane.

last edit on 6/20/2019 4:48:39 PM
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lol this thread! I just assume Legga is always trolling for lulz. 

So you undermined your entire premise by listing people like me as being a Swede. I'm not a swede and instead of addressing that when it was pointed out, you just skimmed over it, and tried to flip the argument onto inq to validate the members he listed - which are indeed people who have claimed to be Swedish and who proven they can speak it beyond google translate in chat. 

If your initial premise is blatantly false and you can't explain it, it's fair to dismiss your point, no? I mean, there are only so many minutes in a lifetime...

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last edit on 6/20/2019 7:01:19 PM
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lol this thread! I just assume Legga is always trolling for lulz. 

It's definitely the easier conclusion to go with when it comes to keeping our own worldviews untouched, but is he

Also does it being "trolling" negate the arguments he's making when they're about what Inquirer is non-trollingly doing? Is there nothing to learn from this experience? 

So you undermined your entire premise by listing people like me as being a Swede. I'm not a swede and instead of addressing that when it was pointed out, you just skimmed over it, and tried to flip the argument onto inq to validate the members he listed - which are indeed people who have claimed to be Swedish and who proven they can speak it beyond google translate in chat. 

Do you have any evidence, or is this just one of Inquirer's dedicated supporters doing what it can't help but do based on the reputation totem he and others have erected around him? 

If your initial premise is blatantly false and you can't explain it, it's fair to dismiss your point, no?

It makes sense to avoid entertaining it from the start, but it's beyond sloppy to claim it after a blunder. At that point it's not even him sarcastically entertaining the idea, but instead making excuses after the fact. 

"Well, my bad argument doesn't have to be good because yours was initially bad before I even made it!" is poor logic and not very sporting to me. I think he sees that as well, now, and is largely why he is instead comparing the weight of both participants evidence and trying to apply it to a scale instead of actually finding evidence (while otherwise claiming that real evidence is "impossible"). 

After a point, what's to stop someone from... oh... say... only choosing to fight people who'd make "poor" arguments to make himself look/feel good? As Ned Stark once said snarkily to Jaime Lannister about how skilled he is and over how he seems to always win: "You've chosen your opponents wisely then."

Is it any coincidence that his usual choice in public debate partners on here are the likes of Spatial Mind, Legga, and Bohemian Rhapsody, people with reputations that'd support his laziness in one way or another (similar ways too really)? It's no wonder he finds himself trapped in debates with people he thinks "aren't good at it", as those are his main fair until said traps draw in others (like myself). 

The irony of course is that said easier opponents seem to grip him harder through how they can still beat him in spite of their reputations working in Inq's favor for the TLDR crowd. If he is not debating against what he deems to be an easy and unskilled opponent, he won't do it without something obligating him to. He likes his foes easy. 

I mean, there are only so many minutes in a lifetime...

Too many, I think we can afford to waste some. 

What would any of us be doing with our time that's objectively better? 

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last edit on 6/20/2019 9:45:37 PM
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Legga is a bloody mess after that beating

 

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