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What if those are what feel worth dreaming about? 

There's a beauty in the void, in meaninglessness, just how there's also value in everything being connected. 

Is there really though? If nihilism floats your boat, feel free to go for it. I prefer my meaning. I crave for meaning, it is ingrained in my brain, and it will be ingrained in my children's brains, and they will go through life chasing for a ghost that does not exist and it will always be their life's purpose until the end of my genetic line when Jesus finally takes me and tells me what my life was about and where this all started and how it all ended and how I am special and unique.

Perhaps what it means to need to find meaning is the journey more worth taking, as opposed to a tangential distraction towards escaping a perceived lack of it. 

I dunno, in your shoes I'd be more so questioning why I need to find meaning in things. 

What about you? What is your purpose in life? When you get up in the morning, what keeps you going? Feel-good chemicals in your brain. I will rise above that and find my meaning in life through suffering and atonement.

I spend my time mostly just existing, which has proven more comfortable for me than a lot of older paths. 

I'm not going anywhere on my own, but tagging alongside others has been my gateway towards many new experiences. 

I prefer the I <3 Huckabees message; that everything matters but that it's no big deal. It's the streamline between a surprising number of paths.

As a consequence of I <3 Huckabees' message how has your life changed?

It simplified a lot of areas of thinking I'd otherwise been doing on my own, and it's a great jumping point for discussions with other people. 

It's an anecdotal bridge towards many deeper conversations. The shared experience of that film helps with relating it to other areas of life. 

I will watch the movie.

I seriously love that film, and it'll likely give us some fun things to talk about. It's a nice streamline presentation of existential theories alongside existential crisis, but prepared in a layman's way that allows for just enough to remain confusing. 

I mean I like exploring those worlds too, but there still ought to be a method behind it instead of merely going with what you'd prefer plainly. 

Method behind religion or choosing a religion? Why does there need to be a method?

Behind how you handle yourself within the concept: 

Within many spititual paths, there's legitimate material growth within it to find. Split the gems from the roughage and there are things that can be taken away from it that can apply to the general consensus over what constitutes our world.

I love looking up religious materials, but I don't see why you have to go into it like a cultist to gain something from it. There's much room for material gains (in lieu of spiritual) through looking at these more like a theologist, like seeing the symbols between multiple paths for what they all have in common for instance. 

Even treating Astrology as more of a seasonal calendar of human trait clusters allows material things to be gleaned from what's otherwise been shrouded in mystical bullshit.

Because it is a magical world and if you look at it through the lens of science it becomes plain and boring and unreal.

What makes it become boring? 

I think the sciences have a lot to express that's quite interesting, even if it's just backyard science. 

My view of the world is the truth, and nothing less and nothing more. There is nothing to "gain" from it except the love of God and direction. I worship God because it is a fact that God exists and that I was born to worship God. Why do you need reasons for something like that, or benefits for yourself? If you are faced with truth, do you choose what is beneficial over what is real? 

But what makes what you believe the truth, other than further selfishness? 

I get that, real is blah blah. And blah. I do not give a fuck. God is real.

I mean clearly you do. 

In fact, I have not yet decided if I am *in fact* Jesus or just a regular worshiper. I used to think I am Jesus when I was young. Maybe I should re-visit those thoughts now that I am older.

There's many ways to follow "Western Religion" without it being all about Jesus. 

Usually it's only children and masochists that submit.

Tryptamine said: 

Usually it's only children and masochists that submit.

 Lord's and generals bow for a king 

Whoever wants you to surrender to the ultimate authority, believes themselves to be or wants to be the ultimate authority. People surrender to cults and dogmatic leaders because they believe that thereby they can become one with these coercive agents—and underneath, their real motivation had been to coerce, to have power.

Turncoat said: 

What do you expect to come from doing that?

I am not infallible. However, I would say that I am a ton better than the supervisors who tell their students that life in academia will be all flowers and sunshine. I expect my students to have a realistic view of what it is they are signing up for. If they decide to go for academia, it is my loss, their win. But it is my responsibility to make sure that I am not selling a lie, or a dream that does not exist.

How saddled with purpose would you say someone is? 

Is one fated to follow their purpose, or do they live a life where a purpose is present and they can choose to ignore it?

They can choose to follow it, or choose to ignore it, as far as I am concerned.

So drifting is the antithesis of being on a path to you? 

How rigid are these "paths"?

Paths? If you are drifting, then you are probably not doing something useful.

I will not quote the rest of your posts. It more or less answers asks the same question, in many different ways. What is it like to be causally disconnected from the world?

I am not sure where you are, Turncoat. However, look around you. You see many things. Can you see a pencil? Can you locate one? I can see one, for sure.

Now, take that pencil, and use it to stab your hand. All the way through.

You can not do that. You are simply barred from doing it. If you think about it logically, there is nothing barring you from stabbing your hand except your mind. Yet, we both of us know you will not do it. Everyone knows you will not do it.

Now imagine if, against all logic, against all your senses screaming telling you not to do it, you do it anyway? Imagine the freedom you gain from affirming, to yourself that you are a freely thinking agent.

It is this disgusting conformity that I want to get rid of, which God allows me to get rid of. Why should I follow logic, when I do not want to? Fuck logic. It is not for me.

Every single major life change that I have ever experienced did not come from me resulting to conformity. I had to fight for my life, and I had to go against common sense, and I had to defy all the basic senses that were screaming at me, telling me not to do the things I chose to do.

That is what it is like to follow God.

organism said: 

Whoever wants you to surrender to the ultimate authority, believes themselves to be or wants to be the ultimate authority. People surrender to cults and dogmatic leaders because they believe that thereby they can become one with these coercive agents—and underneath, their real motivation had been to coerce, to have power.

 This applies perfectly to those RAs that are obsessed with rules and live in a dreamworld where everyone abides by the rules and those that dont are bad people.  Which is almost delusional. Do they hold this twisted idea of reality to justify seeking power positions like an RA or is the delusion groomed in early childhood and unrelated from them seeking power roles 

Legga said: 

Turncoat said: 

What do you expect to come from doing that?

I am not infallible. However, I would say that I am a ton better than the supervisors who tell their students that life in academia will be all flowers and sunshine. I expect my students to have a realistic view of what it is they are signing up for.

I expect that your students, from varying levels of confidence over what they think is going on, weren't really listening to you anyway. 

You may resonate with a few individuals, but it's only because you echoed what they were already likely to think. 

If they decide to go for academia, it is my loss, their win. But it is my responsibility to make sure that I am not selling a lie, or a dream that does not exist.

Your only responsibility as a professor is to teach people the material. Anything beyond that is you taking liberties within the confines of those limitations. 

How saddled with purpose would you say someone is? 

Is one fated to follow their purpose, or do they live a life where a purpose is present and they can choose to ignore it?

They can choose to follow it, or choose to ignore it, as far as I am concerned.

Does it make a difference? 

Are they on their path if they choose to ignore what was otherwise presented as their path? What about them made them choose to rebel from "THE PATH"? 

"The Path" is bullshit, a layman's streamline for one's "destiny". Destiny itself isn't something epic either, it is simply the result of our natural patterns when put up against what's around us. 

So drifting is the antithesis of being on a path to you? 

How rigid are these "paths"?

Paths? If you are drifting, then you are probably not doing something useful.

Who's to say that someone wasn't meant to learn as a drifter? 

Why do the paths need to be rigidly pre-defined, instead of simply an adaptive expression of who we are? 

What is it like to be causally disconnected from the world?

As I've alluded to before, it's to live like Turquie. 

I am not sure where you are, Turncoat. However, look around you. You see many things. Can you see a pencil? Can you locate one? I can see one, for sure.

Now, take that pencil, and use it to stab your hand. All the way through.

You can not do that. You are simply barred from doing it. If you think about it logically, there is nothing barring you from stabbing your hand except your mind. Yet, we both know you will not do it. Everyone knows you will not do it.

That's just the averaged result of Darwinian survival genes. The ones who otherwise lack this trait are otherwise mutants or likely died off, as that lacking produced less offspring. 

I've been able to convince myself to do some pretty dumb shit, but it takes some sort of infectious motivation to try to push beyond what otherwise comes naturally, to change me into trying to change myself further. 

Now imagine if, against all logic, against all your senses screaming telling you not to do it, you do it anyway? Imagine the freedom you gain from affirming, to yourself that you are a freely thinking agent.

I'd likely after the fact be able to map out a rough idea of what caused me to behave in that way. 

It's not too different from mapping my episodic behaviors. Just because I believe something for a time does not give it a permanency of basis, it just means that for one reason or another that I perceived things in such a way. 

I too am not infallible, and through the distrust of myself I find myself projectively doubtful over how much others don't. 

It is this disgusting conformity that I want to get rid of, which God allows me to get rid of. Why should I follow logic, when I do not want to? Fuck logic. It is not for me.

So you want to jump from one conformity to another? 

The real "lost" path is one you design yourself, completely from scratch after a maddeningly long time separated from everyone else. If it borrows from an existing convention, there's a foundational basis behind it. 

Every single major life change that I have ever experienced did not come from me resulting to conformity. I had to fight for my life, and I had to go against common sense, and I had to defy all the basic senses that were screaming at me, telling me not to do the things I chose to do.

Aren't we all told to be better than ourselves? 

That is what it is like to follow God.

To follow God is to accept your own frailties, not to aspire to become more than yourself. 

Legga said: 

I prefer my meaning. I crave for meaning, it is ingrained in my brain, and it will be ingrained in my children's brains, and they will go through life chasing for a ghost that does not exist and it will always be their life's purpose until the end of my genetic line when Jesus finally takes me and tells me what my life was about and where this all started and how it all ended and how I am special and unique.

You sound a bit unhinged. I was assuming this was all a troll, still sort of am.

Tryptamine said: 

Legga said: 

I prefer my meaning. I crave for meaning, it is ingrained in my brain, and it will be ingrained in my children's brains, and they will go through life chasing for a ghost that does not exist and it will always be their life's purpose until the end of my genetic line when Jesus finally takes me and tells me what my life was about and where this all started and how it all ended and how I am special and unique.

You sound a bit unhinged. I was assuming this was all a troll, still sort of am.

A lot of Legga is for the sake of discussion. 

It was a pretty entertaining hyperbole then.